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Strange proposal for an additional ranking/competition for the next FEPG season.
Please feel free to tell what you think about, in both positive and (expecially) negative cases.

AVAEMD: All Vs All on Each MatchDay.
If we have n partecipants and m matchdays, on each matchday everyone virtually meets all the other opponents, playing (n-1) matches.
At the end of the season everyone will play m x (n-1) matches.

It would not replace any existing competition.

Advantage: no need for fixtures, it works with eny value of partecipants and matchdays, no show will have no or minimal impacts, perhaps no need to cancel back results for not showing players.
Disadvantage: it is a mid-way between the general ranking and the traditional league.
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fabiomh wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 09:04 Strange proposal for an additional ranking/competition for the next FEPG season.
Please feel free to tell what you think about, in both positive and (expecially) negative cases.

AVAEMD: All Vs All on Each MatchDay.
If we have n partecipants and m matchdays, on each matchday everyone virtually meets all the other opponents, playing (n-1) matches.
At the end of the season everyone will play m x (n-1) matches.

It would not replace any existing competition.

Advantage: no need for fixtures, it works with eny value of partecipants and matchdays, no show will have no or minimal impacts, perhaps no need to cancel back results for not showing players.
Disadvantage: it is a mid-way between the general ranking and the traditional league.
A bit like racing... (F1 for example)
I think it could work, if who organizes doesn't mind the extra work :wink1:
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Post by Affo »

An interesting idea, I'll see what I can workout.
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fabiomh wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 09:04 Disadvantage: it is a mid-way between the general ranking and the traditional league.
Isn't it closer to the general ranking?
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seso wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 14:07
fabiomh wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 09:04 Disadvantage: it is a mid-way between the general ranking and the traditional league.
Isn't it closer to the general ranking?
firts of all, thank you for all your opinions
yes, it takes something from the general ranking and something from the traditional league, so maybe it is in some way similar to both, maybe closer to the general ranking.
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fabiomh wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 16:14 firts of all, thank you for all your opinions
Thank you for all your nice posts, fabiomh!
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Post by Affo »

@fabiomh do you mean for example this season, each week you have 19 matches or how ever many post so there could be 200 odd matches each or as been mentioned, a F1 style with each week being like a race and points awarded each week based on weekly ranking.

Or both!

I did something similar to the F1 idea a couple years ago, probably can find it. We had groups of 6 and each week those 6 were ranked and received points according to how they ranked in their group.

Apologies for any typos, travelling on a train, bit rocky.
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Post by fabiomh »

Hope I can explain clearly :)
As someone already told, I am realizing that it is something similar to the General Ranking, expressed in a different format

Let us take Week 6 points as example:

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Pred Corr Total Player           
  16    4    20 LukaszBoz        
  16    3    19 ralfinho         
  14    4    18 fabiomh          
  16    2    18 matt             
  16    2    18 nunoalexfcporto  
  16    1    17 levski.bg        
  14    3    17 Ricardo          
  14    2    16 UCL_Lover        
  14    0    14 Affo             
  12    1    13 KRB              
  10    2    12 Greyn            
  10    2    12 Francisco        
  12    0    12 Friesland        
  10    2    12 Jackson Harrison 
  10    2    12 Vidibreovo       
  10    1    11 drvasko98        
   8    1     9 TommyChat        
   8    1     9 Ambro            
   8    0     8 Renard207        
well, 19 players, each of them playing 18 matches against all the other 18 opponents, based on one only prediction.

Lukaszboz wins all the 18 matches (20:19 vs ralfinho, 20:18 vs fabiomh, matt and nunoalexfcporto, and so on...)
ralfinho wins 17 matches and looses 1 match
fabiomh, matt and nunoalexfcporto win 14 matches, draw 2 matches and loose 2 matches, ...

The calculatation can be fully automated starting from the points.

The partial ranking for Week 6 will be:

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Pred Corr Total Player           PTS  P  W D  L  GF  GA   GD 
  16    4    20 LukaszBoz         54 18 18 0  0 360 247 +113 
  16    3    19 ralfinho          51 18 17 0  1 342 248  +94 
  14    4    18 fabiomh           44 18 14 2  2 324 249  +75 
  16    2    18 matt              44 18 14 2  2 324 249  +75 
  16    2    18 nunoalexfcporto   44 18 14 2  2 324 249  +75 
  16    1    17 levski.bg         37 18 12 1  5 306 250  +56 
  14    3    17 Ricardo           37 18 12 1  5 306 250  +56 
  14    2    16 UCL_Lover         33 18 11 0  7 288 251  +37 
  14    0    14 Affo              30 18 10 0  8 252 253   -1 
  12    1    13 KRB               27 18  9 0  9 234 254  -20 
  10    2    12 Greyn             16 18  4 4 10 216 255  -39 
  10    2    12 Francisco         16 18  4 4 10 216 255  -39 
  12    0    12 Friesland         16 18  4 4 10 216 255  -39 
  10    2    12 Jackson Harrison  16 18  4 4 10 216 255  -39 
  10    2    12 Vidibreovo        16 18  4 4 10 216 255  -39 
  10    1    11 drvasko98          9 18  3 0 15 198 256  -58 
   8    1     9 TommyChat          4 18  1 1 16 162 258  -96 
   8    1     9 Ambro              4 18  1 1 16 162 258  -96 
   8    0     8 Renard207          0 18  0 0 18 144 259 -115 
all the partial ranking of all the weeks will be summarized
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Post by Affo »

I now understand what you mean. Interesting idea! Would be good to see how that table looks after all 6 weeks? :wink:

I have thought a bit further on the F1 idea.

Each week could be treated as "a race" with winner 15, 2nd 12, 3rd 10 and so on to 10th getting 1pt. Add the weekly scores?

I think for S33 we don't need Europa League or League Cup, just the following:

Overall Ranking
League (1 or 2 Divisions depending on numbers)
Cup (all included, open draw)
Champions League style
Super Cup for previous League and FEPG Cup winner
Fabiomh's idea or F1 style table idea or both?
Nation/Region league

Just had another idea (the F1 gave me it). How about making each game week based on 1 country (2 if not enough games from 1)? So we travel around Europe each week.

Or each participant could pick a "Home" week where the games are picked from the Nation each person chose. The number of matches are determined by the league of choice, max would be 10, minimum 5/6.

Just ideas, thinking aloud.

Thoughts everyone/anyone?
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1) I don't have enough of imagination to imagine how fabio's idea would work after all weeks would be played, but as long as it would result in different outcomes than General Ranking - I have nothing against it.

2) I think that F1 style table is a good idea. A bit like an improved version of medal table.

3) I am a bit skeptical about making each game week based on 1 or 2 countries. I think it would produce many more matches to predict with a heavy favorite. I prefer current format with a mix of games from different countries with no clear favorite, so each player usually has a tough decision to make with predicting the outcome.

Anyway, I accept all decisions that will be made in advance.
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Post by Affo »

Appreciate the comments and thoughts.
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Post by Renard207 »

I don't like idea of using one or two countries.

What about this idea @Affo winner of the week previous get to pick the 10 games for the week after? Maybe give them 24 hours after results to pick and then you chose by default?

The F1 idea sounds good too. I no Lewis Hamilton though 🤣!
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Personally I am very happy with selections of matches made by Affo and I don't think it requires any change, or in other words - any change in this regard would improve our game.
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Post by fabiomh »

Greyn wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:13 1) I don't have enough of imagination to imagine how fabio's idea would work after all weeks would be played, but as long as it would result in different outcomes than General Ranking - I have nothing against it.

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I will do the simulation with these first 7 weeks.
For the moment I suppose that you are right. It might be very very similar to General Ranking.
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