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by emortal
Wed May 15, 2024 21:11
Forum: Domestic Leagues and Cups
Topic: Greek Football Season 2023/24
Replies: 259
Views: 25656

Re: Greek Football Season 2023/24

PAOK 4:1 Panathinaikos ----------------------------- Game was way more difficult than the final score makes it seem. PAOK did something that seemed impossible a month ago! 3 consecutive wins vs. AEK, Olympiakos and Panathinaikos at home :mol: Since AEK lost at Olympiakos, PAOK climbs back to first p...
by emortal
Wed May 15, 2024 15:51
Forum: Domestic Leagues and Cups
Topic: Greek Football Season 2023/24
Replies: 259
Views: 25656

Re: Greek Football Season 2023/24

Last season everyone was united against PAO in order AEK to win the title. This season everyone will be united against AEK in order PAOK to win the title. What complete bollocks! Who was/is "everyone"? The fans? Like somebody'll tell Terim, Mendilibar or the players to lose and they'll ob...
by emortal
Mon May 13, 2024 12:20
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

Actually my table is not a prediction but stats outcome. ... My understanding is that it's based on a random result with equal probability (i.e. 1/3 for each of W/D/L) for every tie. One can see that as a predictor based on random results. I.e. the simplest one possible. All I'm saying is that if a...
by emortal
Mon May 13, 2024 09:55
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

amirbachar wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 09:41 That's not true over a small sample, Clubelo specifically was proven to be very accurate in the past, probably 2nd only to 538 out of all the public models at the time.
Opta is not using ClubElo though.

The word "proof" has specific meaning and doesn't apply here.
by emortal
Mon May 13, 2024 09:08
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

The last sentence is equivalent to "I don't understand statistics". "Eye test" is just nonsense. You can believe that the model is innacurate or biased, but you need more than "feelings". Did Brugge and Brest met in Europe? No? So how on Earth can you make such a claim...
by emortal
Sun May 12, 2024 21:27
Forum: Domestic Leagues and Cups
Topic: Greek Football Season 2023/24
Replies: 259
Views: 25656

Re: Greek Football Season 2023/24

PAOK gets the crucial win vs Olympiakos in the postponed play-offs game :banana: Zivkovic assisted the first goal (26' Taison), scored the second (65', assist by Konstantelias) and got into a brawl with Podence that led to the latter's yellow card. And all that in 75'. This leads now to the most exc...
by emortal
Sun May 12, 2024 17:32
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

This. Most people don't understand anything in statistics. At all. They seem patterns where there is just some statistical noise, and they try to explain this "pattern" with outlandish explanations. Agreed. Just look at this whole thread about Opta's model. They claim the model is wrong b...
by emortal
Sat May 11, 2024 10:59
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

When only 2 points are needed for top15 you can't blame just one club for one result. Greece could have easily taken those 2 points from rest clubs at many occasions they were supposed to get a better result eg Olympiakos at home match against Maccabi Tel Aviv, or at Serbia or PAOK at home match ag...
by emortal
Sat May 11, 2024 10:53
Forum: UEFA club coefficients and rankings
Topic: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24
Replies: 1103
Views: 103631

Re: Battle for important ranking positions 2023-24

Opta is not realistic, they constantly exaggerated England's chances and underestimated Germany, and especially France. It was already seen in GS that English clubs are limping this season and have a lot of problems, despite that Opta favored them. :mol: Opta is not underestimating French clubs at ...
by emortal
Sat May 11, 2024 10:45
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Coming back to the English « crash » this season in Europe (as per English standards), we first have to remember I think that ManCity was eliminated on penalties and without losing a game vs Real Madrid. Had the pso been different Man City would have been the top favourite to defend their title. It...
by emortal
Sat May 11, 2024 10:22
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Fully understandable. ... I can only imagine how AEK stadium will look like after an invasion by Olympiacos fans. There's another angle to this. Greek police have forbidden away fans in the league like forever and they forced the cup final to be played without (or very few) fans since 2016! And don...
by emortal
Thu May 02, 2024 23:18
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Festival of mistakes by Brugge today. From goalkeeper playing volley-ball leading to 2-1. Goalkeeper giving a free corner. Onyedika getting 2 yellows within minutes. A player making a pass to the lateral stand. Defenders turning into stone on the late 3-2. If Brugge plays like Brugge and not like N...
by emortal
Thu May 02, 2024 22:57
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Fiorentina scores in extra time.

3-2 is not disastrous for Brugge, a win at home looks more than doable based on what I saw tonight.
by emortal
Thu May 02, 2024 22:34
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Is the Villa-Olympiakos game as one-sided as it looks from the stats?

Olympiakos has 4 goals on only 6 attempts? 😲😲
by emortal
Thu May 02, 2024 22:27
Forum: European Club football
Topic: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final
Replies: 312
Views: 8159

Re: 2023/24 Conference League quarter-finals, semi-finals and final

Club Brugge midfielder Onyedika was flawless in 180' vs PAOK (literally 0 errors).

And now he's committing two stupid fouls within 6' and is sent off with yellow/red.

1' later Thiago scores the equalizer, this is crazy!