2022/2023 CL (and UYL) Group E: Milan - Chelsea - Salzburg - Dinamo Zagreb

[bugylibicska]

So, Dinamo's only chance for Europe to win at Chelsea and Salzburg lose at Milan. Pretty slim. Chelsea on top, only question Milan or Salzburg accompany them. Milan in the driving seat playing at home.

[babaluj1]

An expected defeat for Dinamo, which plays poorly in the HNL as well. Milan showed why it is the champion of Italy. Dinamo fell apart in the second half and the result 0:4 is good, it could have ended 0:8. It will be similar in the last round in London. In Dinamo, besides the goalkeeper Livaković, Josip Mišić was the only one who played well, all the others were bad.

[Club-Mate]

if Salzburg wanted to beat Chelsea they would have needed a very strong match plus some luck. They could not provide both yesterday except for a while in the second half when they came out from cabine like completely changed compared to first half as most of times in this period. Two "artwork" shots decided this match and sealed the first defeat after 5 CL matches.

Now it will come to a great final in Meazza stadium like they had in all 3 CL competitions before. The Red Bulls only could succeed against Sevilla. The matches against Liverpool and Atletico got lost. But just to reach this stage constantly is a big succuss for this young team (yesterday without Andi Ulmer only 22,0 years). Well you do not get something for this on the scoreboard but it is still remarkable.
Red Bull's marketing slogans are "young, dynamic and successful, next generation" and so on. So this Salzburg team fits much better in Red Bulls business plan than for example Rasenball Leipzig which is probably a failed construction even the club name sounds ridiculous not helpful for Red Bull allthough this club is beneficial for this region (we'll see in future what will happen with them it doesn't seem anymore like being a core business of RB). Sorry about bringing economic wisdoms to here but it is an integral part of this club for understanding their sports activities too.

[BurningStorm]

Expecting two home wins on MD6 and then we'd have the most likely outcome with Chelsea as group winner and Milan as runner-up. Lets see if Dinamo get a last chance for the EL spot if Chelsea coach Potter play with a C team or something.

Red Bull's marketing slogans are "young, dynamic and successful, next generation" and so on. So this Salzburg team fits much better in Red Bulls business plan than for example Rasenball Leipzig which is probably a failed construction even the club name sounds ridiculous not helpful for Red Bull allthough this club is beneficial for this region (we'll see in future what will happen with them it doesn't seem anymore like being a core business of RB). Sorry about bringing economic wisdoms to here but it is an integral part of this club for understanding their sports activities too.

Oh, someone is jealous and angry after the "wrong" RB team beat Real Madrid. If the owners from Thailand could decide after Mateschitz' death (rest in peace, I liked him outside of the football stuff), I think Salzburg would be more in danger. For Mateschitz it was an act of patriotism to help Salzburg, but having a RB club in a top 4 league who already reached a CL semi-final, is much better for global marketing. I'm not a sympathiser of RB Leipzig either, but they also play with a very young team, not as young as Salzburg because it wouldn't work in a competitive league, but the whole argument sounds so funny. Do you think it's good marketing to be Bayern's b*tch every season (2-6 in 20/21 and 1-7 in 21/22) and not winning a KO tie for many years? In F1 they also want to be on top. Leipzig sold players for huge sums, Nkunku will be the next. A failed construction while RBS is outstanding, funny & comedy gold.

Anyway, as far as I know, nothing will change for now. I heard Mateschitz signed some paperworks just two months ago to keep his sports projects after his death. Good for you.

[Club-Mate]

"Auch ein Narr kann zuweilen recht behalten wenn er inkorrekte Inhalte falsch interpretiert" - 1 * -1 = +1
(mein Lehrmeister Andre Kostolany)

[BurningStorm]

"Auch ein Narr kann zuweilen recht behalten wenn er inkorrekte Inhalte falsch interpretiert" - 1 * -1 = +1
(mein Lehrmeister Andre Kostolany)

Das mit der falschen Interpretation denke ich mir bei jedem zweiten Beitrag von dir (und das mit dem "Narr" bei jedem). Jedes deiner Argumente war de facto Käse.

[bugylibicska]

To qualify:

Chelsea won the group.

Milan 1.14
Salzburg 5.00

Milan are favourites to follow Chelsea, but accidents happen sometimes. Dinamo have only a tiny chance for EL spot, they must win in London and hope Salzburg lose in Milan.

Chelsea 10
Milan 7
Salzburg 6
Dinamo Zagreb 4

Next: Chelsea - Dinamo Zagreb, Milan - Salzburg.

[Dragonite]

UYL:


Congratulations Milan!


They've already progressed from the group stage. And they'll win the group if they don't lose against Salzburg next week.

Salzburg must win in Italy to win the group. If they draw they'll keep the second spot. And if they lose and Dinamo Zagreb wins in England they'll be eliminated.

Dinamo Zagreb must win in England and hope that Salzburg loses in Italy in order to get the second spot, otherwise they'll be eliminated.


Chelsea is already eliminated and this is the worst Chelsea in UYL history.

They're in a winless streak of 8 UYL matches (Juventus, Zenit, Genk, Dinamo Zagreb, Salzburg, Milan x2 and Salzburg), the longest in their UYL history.

Let's see if they can at least avoid the humiliation of an entire season without a single win.


CL:


Congratulations Chelsea!


They already won this group, despite the slow start.


Milan's 4-0 win in Croatia was the biggest win in their CL history alongside other six 4-0 wins: IFK Goteborg in 1992, Barcelona in 1994, Deportivo in 2002, Shakhtar in 2004, Fenerbahçe in 2005 and Arsenal in 2012.

They only need a draw against Salzburg next week to qualify for the CL last 16.


If Salzburg wins in Italy they'll qualify to the CL last 16. If they draw they'll qualify to the EL playoffs. And if they lose and Dinamo Zagreb wins in England they will be last placed.


Will Dinamo Zagreb win in England?

On one hand, they already won against Chelsea in round 1, their only win, and last season in EL round 6 they also won in England against West Ham.

On the other hand, in 23 CL games away they have 1 win, 3 draws and 19 defeats! Their single win was in Netherlands against Ajax in 1998.


By the way, a win for Dinamo Zagreb would make this their second best CL campaign, only behind their debut in 1998/1999 when they got 8 points.

[matt]

Milan
Chelsea
Salzburg
DInamo Zagreb

Milan with zero excuses not to finish in the top two.

This group became boring after two interesting matchdays. The harsh red card ruined Milan home game against Chelsea.

[Dragonite]

UYL:


Congratulations Salzburg!


They lost in Italy, so they could have been eliminated with Dinamo Zagreb winning in England. But Dinamo Zagreb lost in England so Salzburg kept the second place. And this week in Switzerland against Young Boys, they were losing 0-2 but recovered to win 3-2 and qualified to the last 16, just like Milan that qualified directly by winning this group.

UYL Prediction:
1. Chelsea
2. Salzburg
3. Dinamo Zagreb
4. Milan

Milan was the "Chelsea" of my prediction, and Chelsea was the "Milan".

By the way, with the eliminations of Inter and Juventus this week, and with Napoli's elimination in the group stage, Milan is the last Italian team standing.


CL:


Congratulations Milan!

Milan's 4-0 win in Croatia was the biggest win in their CL history alongside other six 4-0 wins: IFK Goteborg in 1992, Barcelona in 1994, Deportivo in 2002, Shakhtar in 2004, Fenerbahçe in 2005 and Arsenal in 2012.

They only need a draw against Salzburg next week to qualify for the CL last 16.

They only needed a draw against Salzburg to keep the second spot, but instead of getting just what thet needed they got much more, another 4-0 win to join the list of their biggest wins in CL history.


Congratulations Salzburg too!


Despite the defeat in Italy they kept the third place, because Dinamo Zagreb couldn't win in England.

I could say, just like Sporting's case in Group D, that third place is really the "best case scenario". But in Salzburg's case I'm not so sure about that. Over the last three seasons they were immediately eliminated after the group stages, by Frankfurt in 2020, by Villarreal in 2021, and by Bayern in 2022, not even winning a single game. Will this time be any different against Roma?

Prediction:
1. Chelsea
2. Milan
3. Salzburg
4. Dinamo Zagreb

Flawless prediction here.