2025 FIFA Club World Cup, USA (first 32-team edition)

[amenina]

AFC ranking

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Hilal win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 33 points (24 match points + 9 bonus points)

Here are the 15 teams (not counting Al Hilal) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors (KOR) - 72
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Ulsan Hyundai (KOR) - 62
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Kawasaki Frontale (JPN) - 61
Pohang Steelers (KOR) - 55
Al Nassr (KSA) - 49
Yokohama F. Marinos (JPN) - 37
Nasaf (UZB) - 32 (must win title to qualify, since they have to play Al Hilal before final)
Sepahan (IRN) - 26 (must win title to qualify)
Shandong Taishan (CHN) - 22 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ain (UAE) - 21 (must win title to qualify)
Al Ittihad (KSA) - 21 (must win title to qualify)
Bangkok United (THA) - 19 (must win title to qualify)
Navbahor (UZB) - 19 (must win title to qualify)
Ventforet Kofu (JPN) - 17 (must win title to qualify)
Al Fayha (KSA) - 15 (must win title to qualify)

[amenina]

CAF ranking

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Ahly or Wydad win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 33 points (24 match points + 9 bonus points); 36 points for CR Belouizdad.

Here are the 14 teams (not counting Al Ahly or Wydad) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Note: The points differ from the FIFA table as it did not include 2023/24 matchday 4 results.

Mamelodi Sundowns (RSA) - 84
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ES Tunis (TUN) - 76
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CR Belouizdad (ALG) - 59
Petro de Luanda (ANG) - 50
Simba (TAN) - 48
Al Hilal (SDN) - 34 (must win title to qualify)
TP Mazembe (COD) - 18 (must win title to qualify)
ASEC Mimosas - 16 (must win title to qualify)
Etoile du Sahel (TUN) - 16 (must win title to qualify)
Jwaneng Galaxy - 11 (must win title to qualify)
Young Africans (BOT) - 8 (must win title to qualify)
Medeama (GHA) - 7 (must win title to qualify)
Nouadhibou (MTN) - 7 (must win title to qualify)
Pyramids (EGY) - 7 (must win title to qualify)

[amenina]

CONCACAF ranking

1 spot to qualify from ranking if Monterrey win 2024 title. Mexican teams are not eligible.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 33 points (21 match points + 12 bonus points); 30 points for the teams given a bye to round of 16 (since I already add 3 points to them).

Note: Round 1 results are not counted for match points (since not all teams play in this round), but a team which win a round 1 tie is given 3 bonus points for reaching round of 16.

Here are the 26 teams (not counting Monterrey) still competing in 2024, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 37
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 16
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12
Comunicaciones (GUA) - 12 (must win title to qualify, since they play Monterrey in round 1)
New England Revolution - 9 (their round of 16 tie in 2022 was forfeited by their opponent, if those two matches count as 6 points then they should have 15 points)
Vancouver Whitecaps (CAN) - 9 (must win title to qualify, since they have to play Monterrey before final)
Saprissa (CRC) - 7
Orlando City (USA) - 5 (must win title to qualify, since they have to play Monterrey before final)
Forge (CAN) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Inter Miami (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Real Esteli (NCA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Robinhood (SUR) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Cavalier (JAM) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Cavalry (CAN) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Cincinnati (USA) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Herediano (CRC) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Houston Dynamo (USA) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Independiente (PAN) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Moca (DOM) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Nashville (USA) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
St Louis City (USA) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
America (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Chivas Guadalajara (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Pachuca (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Tigres UANL (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Toluca (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)

[Jackson Harrison]

So Liverpool are eliminated?

Yes, there are already 2 English teams which qualified as champions, Chelsea and Manchester City, so another English team cannot qualify through ranking. The only way a 3rd English team can qualify is to win this season's title, so Arsenal may still qualify.

Why "currently" then?

I'm hoping Arsenal win CL.

Also @amenina as there is one American CCC champion will more American teams be allowed to qualify by ranking?

[amenina]

So Liverpool are eliminated?

Yes, there are already 2 English teams which qualified as champions, Chelsea and Manchester City, so another English team cannot qualify through ranking. The only way a 3rd English team can qualify is to win this season's title, so Arsenal may still qualify.

Why "currently" then?

I'm hoping Arsenal win CL.

Also @amenina as there is one American CCC champion will more American teams be allowed to qualify by ranking?

What "currently"? I never used that word.

If Monterrey win the 2024 CCC, then one spot is available through ranking in the CONCACAF region, and since so far only one USA team (Seattle Sounders) have qualified, a second USA team can qualify through ranking. It appears from the wording of FIFA, that the host spot reserved for USA do not count towards the "2-team for one country" limit for each confederation.

[Jackson Harrison]

Yes, there are already 2 English teams which qualified as champions, Chelsea and Manchester City, so another English team cannot qualify through ranking. The only way a 3rd English team can qualify is to win this season's title, so Arsenal may still qualify.

Why "currently" then?

I'm hoping Arsenal win CL.

Also @amenina as there is one American CCC champion will more American teams be allowed to qualify by ranking?

What "currently"? I never used that word.

If Monterrey win the 2024 CCC, then one spot is available through ranking in the CONCACAF region, and since so far only one USA team (Seattle Sounders) have qualified, a second USA team can qualify through ranking. It appears from the wording of FIFA, that the host spot reserved for USA do not count towards the "2-team for one country" limit for each confederation.

I never said you did. FIFA did.

Thanks. Any idea how host slot will be allocated?

Which club will take position A1 and play the opening match?

[Sagy]

Why "currently" then?

I'm hoping Arsenal win CL.

Also @amenina as there is one American CCC champion will more American teams be allowed to qualify by ranking?

What "currently"? I never used that word.

If Monterrey win the 2024 CCC, then one spot is available through ranking in the CONCACAF region, and since so far only one USA team (Seattle Sounders) have qualified, a second USA team can qualify through ranking. It appears from the wording of FIFA, that the host spot reserved for USA do not count towards the "2-team for one country" limit for each confederation.

I never said you did. FIFA did.

Thanks. Any idea how host slot will be allocated?

Which club will take position A1 and play the opening match?

Inter Miami

Not sure what logic they’ll use, but it will end up a team that Messi plays for…

[amirbachar]

What "currently"? I never used that word.

If Monterrey win the 2024 CCC, then one spot is available through ranking in the CONCACAF region, and since so far only one USA team (Seattle Sounders) have qualified, a second USA team can qualify through ranking. It appears from the wording of FIFA, that the host spot reserved for USA do not count towards the "2-team for one country" limit for each confederation.

I never said you did. FIFA did.

Thanks. Any idea how host slot will be allocated?

Which club will take position A1 and play the opening match?

Inter Miami

Not sure what logic they’ll use, but it will end up a team that Messi plays for…

Don't think so, if they didn't let Barcelona qualify then I don't think they'll rig anything.
I believe it will be the Supporters' Shield winner (the team with the best regular season record) or the MLS Champion.

[amenina]

Why "currently" then?

I'm hoping Arsenal win CL.

Also @amenina as there is one American CCC champion will more American teams be allowed to qualify by ranking?

What "currently"? I never used that word.

If Monterrey win the 2024 CCC, then one spot is available through ranking in the CONCACAF region, and since so far only one USA team (Seattle Sounders) have qualified, a second USA team can qualify through ranking. It appears from the wording of FIFA, that the host spot reserved for USA do not count towards the "2-team for one country" limit for each confederation.

I never said you did. FIFA did.

Thanks. Any idea how host slot will be allocated?

Which club will take position A1 and play the opening match?

FIFA's terminology is very confusing. Just ignore it.

From https://twitter.com/FIFAcom/status/1738914502509236649

The final slot is allocated to a club from the host country – further details provided in due course.

No idea what they will do with the A1 position, or which teams will be seeded into which pot. How they do it would be very interesting. There is no FIFA Club Ranking, or past performances to seed the teams. How do you compare teams from different confederations? I guess the four UCL champions will be seeded into Pot 1, but after that?

[amenina]

CONMEBOL ranking

2 spots to qualify from ranking, 3 spots if Palmeiras, Flamengo or Fluminense win 2024 title. Brazilian teams are not eligible. Maximum 2 teams per country (including 2024 champions).

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 54 points (39 match points + 15 bonus points); 51 points for the teams given a bye to group stage (since I already add 3 points to them).

Note: Preliminary round results are not counted for match points (since not all teams play in this round), but a team which win a round 3 tie is given 3 bonus points for reaching group stage.

Here are the 44 teams (not counting Palmeiras, Flamengo or Fluminense) still competing in 2024, and the two teams that do not compete in 2024 but can still qualify.

Boca Juniors (ARG) - 71 (not competing in 2024)
River Plate (ARG) - 67
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Olimpia (PAR) - 57 (not competing in 2024)
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Independiente del Valle (ECU) - 41
Barcelona (ECU) - 40
Cerro Porteno (PAR) - 40
Nacional (URU) - 40
Estudiantes (ARG) - 30
Libertad (PAR) - 30
The Strongest (BOL) - 30
Atletico Nacional (COL) - 27
Bolivar (BOL) - 27
Talleres (ARG) - 27
Deportivo Tachira (VEN) - 25
Sporting Cristal (PER) - 23
Colo-Colo (CHI) - 19
Always Ready (BOL) - 18
Alianza Lima (PER) - 14
LDU Quito (ECU) - 14
Junior (COL) - 13
Penarol (URU) - 13
Caracas (VEN) - 12
Liverpool (URU) - 10
Universitario (PER) - 10
Aucas (ECU) - 7
Melgar (PER) - 7
Cobresal (CHI) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Huachipato (CHI) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Millonarios (COL) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Rosario Central (ARG) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
San Lorenzo (ARG) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Academia Puerto Cabello (VEN) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Aguilas Dorados (COL) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Aurora (BOL) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Defensor Sporting (URU) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
El Nacional (ECU) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Godoy Cruz (ARG) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Nacional (PAR) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Palestino (CHI) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Portuguesa (VEN) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Sportivo Trinidense (PAR) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Atletico Mineiro (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Botafogo (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Gremio (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Red Bull Bragantino - (must win title to qualify)
Sao Paulo (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)

[Ogiman]

CONCACAF ranking

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 37
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 16
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12
Comunicaciones (GUA) - 12 (must win title to qualify, since they play Monterrey in round 1)
New England Revolution - 9 (their round of 16 tie in 2022 was forfeited by their opponent, if those two matches count as 6 points then they should have 15 points)

I think that you made mistake at Alajuelense as they should be at 9.

[amenina]

CONCACAF ranking

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 37
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 16
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12
Comunicaciones (GUA) - 12 (must win title to qualify, since they play Monterrey in round 1)
New England Revolution - 9 (their round of 16 tie in 2022 was forfeited by their opponent, if those two matches count as 6 points then they should have 15 points)

I think that you made mistake at Alajuelense as they should be at 9.

I already added their 3 points for reaching the round of 16 in 2024, since they have a bye in round 1.

[Jackson Harrison]

CONCACAF ranking

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 37
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 16
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12
Comunicaciones (GUA) - 12 (must win title to qualify, since they play Monterrey in round 1)
New England Revolution - 9 (their round of 16 tie in 2022 was forfeited by their opponent, if those two matches count as 6 points then they should have 15 points)

I think that you made mistake at Alajuelense as they should be at 9.

I already added their 3 points for reaching the round of 16 in 2024, since they have a bye in round 1.

They don’t get 3 points for a bye!

By that logic European teams would get 5*3pts for byes for the 5 qualifying rounds!

[amenina]

I think that you made mistake at Alajuelense as they should be at 9.

I already added their 3 points for reaching the round of 16 in 2024, since they have a bye in round 1.

They don’t get 3 points for a bye!

By that logic European teams would get 5*3pts for byes for the 5 qualifying rounds!

For confederations other than UEFA, all teams get 3 points for participating in the group stage. Since CONCACAF Champions League/Cup does not have a group stage, the round of 16 is considered the "group stage", so Alajuelense will definitely have at least 3 points for 2024.

[Jackson Harrison]

I already added their 3 points for reaching the round of 16 in 2024, since they have a bye in round 1.

They don’t get 3 points for a bye!

By that logic European teams would get 5*3pts for byes for the 5 qualifying rounds!

For confederations other than UEFA, all teams get 3 points for participating in the group stage. Since CONCACAF Champions League/Cup does not have a group stage, the round of 16 is considered the "group stage", so Alajuelense will definitely have at least 3 points for 2024.

1) will UEFA qualifiers be considered?
2) No points for Round 1?