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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after MD1


372 - NETHERLANDS
351 - FRANCE
336 - GERMANY
282 - AUSTRIA
280 - ENGLAND
254 - ITALY
205 - SPAIN
184 - BELGIUM
157 - SCOTLAND
155 - PORTUGAL




only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
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Update as of November 2nd, 2023


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. ARSENAL 794 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group B with 6 points in 3 games
Premier League - 2nd with 24 points in 10 games (2 pts behind Tottenham)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - PSV 4-0
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2



2. BARCELONA 696 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group H with 9 pts in 3 games
Liga - 4th with 24 pts in 11 games (4 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Betis 5-0
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1



3. INTER 659 pts

Champions League - 2nd of Group D with 7 pts in 3 games
Serie A - Leader with 25 pts in 10 games (2 point lead over Juventus))

Key performances:

Inter - Fiorentina 4-0
Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0



4. MANCHESTER CITY 626 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group G with 9 points in 3 games
Premier League - 3rd with 24 points in 10 games (2 pts behind Tottenham)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Man City - Crvena zvezda 3-1
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Young Boys - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3



5. REAL MADRID 583 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group C with 9 points in 3 games
Liga - Leader with 28 pts in 11 games (same as Girona)

Key performances:

Real Madrid - Real Sociedad 2-1
Real Madrid - Union 1-0
Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Braga - Real Madrid 1-2
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2



6. ATLETICO 538 pts

Champions League - 2nd of Group E with 5 pts in 3 games
Liga - 3rd with 25 pts in 10 games (3 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico - Real Sociead 2-1



7. NEWCASTLE 530 pts

Champions League - 3rd of Group F with 4 pts in 3 games
Premier League - 6th with 17 points in 10 games (9 pts behind Tottenham)
League Cup - qualified for the Quarters (vs Chelsea)

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)



8. ASTON VILLA 518 pts

Conference League - 2nd with 6 pts in games
Premier League - 5th with 22 points in 10 games (4 pts behind Tottenham)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4



9. PARIS 517 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group F with 6 pts in 3 games
Ligue 1 - 2nd with 21 pts in 10 games (1 pt behind Nice)

Key performances:

Lyon - PSG 1-4
PSG - Dortmund 2-0
PSG - Marseille 4-0
Rennes - PSG 1-3
PSG - Milan 3-0



10. BAYERN 492 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group A with 9 pts in 3 games
Bundesliga - 2nd with 23 pts in 9 games (2 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:

Mönchengladbach - Bayern 1-2
Bayern - Man United 4-3
Copenhagen - Bayern 1-2
Bayern - Freiburg 3-0
Galatasaray - Bayern 1-3





11. LEVERKUSEN 482 pts
12. BRIGHTON 473 pts
13. TOTTENHAM 451 pts
14. PSV 412 pts
15. LAZIO 405 pts
16. REAL SOCIEDAD 398 pts
17. NICE 388 pts
18. GIRONA 387 pts
19. LIVERPOOL 380 pts
20. MILAN 369 pts
etc.



Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after MD3


1328 - ENGLAND
1239 - SPAIN
913 - ITALY
762 - FRANCE
703 - GERMANY
528 - NETHERLANDS
400 - BELGIUM
327 - AUSTRIA
242 - PORTUGAL
219 - SCOTLAND


only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
Don't forget to post your predictions for the new season
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Update as of December 1st, 2023


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. MANCHESTER CITY 991 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group G with 15 points in 5 games
Premier League - 2nd with 29 points in 13 games (1 pt behind Arsenal)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Man City - Crvena zvezda 3-1
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2



2. INTER 968 pts

Champions League - 2nd of Group D with 11 pts in 5 games
Serie A - Leader with 32 pts in 13 games (2 point lead over Juventus)

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1



3. ARSENAL 966 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group B with 12 points in 5 games
Premier League - Leader with 30 points in 13 games (1 pt lead over Man City)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - PSV 4-0
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0



4. NEWCASTLE 936 pts

Champions League - 3rd of Group F with 5 pts in 5 games
Premier League - 7th with 23 points in 13 games (7 pts behind Arsenal)
League Cup - qualified for the Quarters (vs Chelsea)

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)
Newcastle - Arsenal 1-0
Newcastle - Chelsea 4-1



5. BARCELONA 922 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group H with 12 pts in 5 games
Liga - 4th with 31 pts in 14 games (4 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1



6. ATLETICO 870 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group E with 11 pts in 5 games
Liga - 3rd with 31 pts in 13 games (4 pts behind Real Madrid ith one game in hand)

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico - Real Sociedad 2-1
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3



7. REAL MADRID 854 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group C with 15 points in 5 games
Liga - Leader with 35 pts in 14 games (same as Girona)

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Braga - Real Madrid 1-2
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Braga 3-0
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2



8. ASTON VILLA 774 pts

Conference League - Leader of Group E with 12 pts in 5 games
Premier League - 4th with 28 points in 13 games (2 pts behind Arsenal)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2



9. REAL SOCIEDAD 760 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group D with 11 points in 5 games
Liga - 6th with 25 pts in 14 games (10 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Valencia - Real Sociedad 0-1
Salzburg - Real Sociedad 0-2
Benfica - Real Sociedad 0-1
Real Sociedad - Benfica 3-1
Real Sociedad - Sevilla 2-1



10. BAYERN 737 pts

Champions League - Leader of Group A with 13 pts in 5 games
Bundesliga - 2nd with 32 pts in 12 games (2 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:

Bayern - Man United 4-3
Copenhagen - Bayern 1-2
Galatasaray - Bayern 1-3
Dortmund - Bayern 0-4
Bayern - Galatasaray 2-1





11. LAZIO 643 pts
12. BRIGHTON 631 pts
13. MILAN 623 pts
14. LEVERKUSEN 614 pts
15. PARIS 586 pts
16. PSV 585 pts
18. LIVERPOOL 535 pts
17. NICE 474 pts
19. STUTTGART 464 pts
20. TOULOUSE 456 pts




Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after MD5


2209 - ENGLAND
2032 - SPAIN
1549 - ITALY
1272 - FRANCE
1197 - GERMANY
708 - NETHERLANDS
493 - BELGIUM
412 - AUSTRIA
400 - PORTUGAL
272 - SCOTLAND


only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
Don't forget to post your predictions for the new season
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Update as of January 1st, 2024


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. INTER 1223 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Atletico)
Serie A - Leader with 45 pts in 18 games (2 point lead over Juventus)
Coppa Italia - eliminated at the Round of 16 by Bologna

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1
Napoli - Inter 0-3



2. ASTON VILLA 1178 pts

Conference League - quaified for the Round of 16
Premier League - 2nd with 42 points in 20 games (3 pts behind Liverpool)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2
Aston Villa - Man City 1-0
Aston Villa - Arsenal 1-0



3. NEWCASTLE 1157 pts

Champions League - eliminated at Group Stage level (Dortmund/PSG)
Premier League - 9th with 29 points in 19 games (16 pts behind Liverpool)
League Cup - eliminated in Quarters by Chelsea

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)
Newcastle - Arsenal 1-0
Newcastle - Chelsea 4-1
Newcastle - Man United 1-0



4. ATLETICO 1118 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Inter)
Liga - 3rd with 38 pts in 18 games (7 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico - Real Sociedad 2-1
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3



5. ARSENAL 1116 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Porto)
Premier League - 4th with 40 points in 20 games (5 pts behind Liverpool)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - PSV 4-0
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0



6. MANCHESTER CITY 1111 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Copenhagen)
Premier League - 3rd with 40 points in 20 games (5 pts behind Liverpool)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2
Crvena zvezda - Man City 2-3



7. REAL MADRID 1110 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Leipzig)
Liga - Leader with 45 pts in 18 games (same as Girona)

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Braga - Real Madrid 1-2
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2
Real Madrid - Villarreal 4-1



8. BARCELONA 1070 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Napoli)
Liga - 4th with 38 pts in 18 games (7 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1
Barcelona - Atletico 1-0



9. REAL SOCIEDAD 1006 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Paris)
Liga - 6th with 31 pts in 18 games (14 pts behind Real Madrid)

Key performances:

Salzburg - Real Sociedad 0-2
Benfica - Real Sociedad 0-1
Real Sociedad - Benfica 3-1
Real Sociedad - Sevilla 2-1
Villarreal - Real Sociedad 0-3



10. BAYERN 960 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Lazio)
Bundesliga - 2nd with 38 pts in 15 games (4 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:

Bayern - Man United 4-3
Copenhagen - Bayern 1-2
Galatasaray - Bayern 1-3
Dortmund - Bayern 0-4
Man United - bayern 0-1





11. WEST HAM 927 pts
12. PSV 856 pts
13. LEVERKUSEN 850 pts
14. BRIGHTON 836 pts
15. LIVERPOOL 713 pts
16. JUVENTUS 686 pts
17. PARIS 681 pts
18. LEIPZIG 674 pts
19. LAZIO 643 pts
20. BOLOGNE 640 pts




Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after GS


2440 - ENGLAND
2317 - SPAIN
1740 - ITALY
1567 - FRANCE
1551 - GERMANY
918 - BELGIUM
762 - NETHERLANDS
635 - PORTUGAL
614 - SCOTLAND
412 - AUSTRIA



only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
Don't forget to post your predictions for the new season
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this is the lower table of Champions League with the categories 5 and 6 beginning with "elite" "very strong" "strong" "decent" in the first table and at the end the grey category including clubs with min 5 defeats in their CL history over the last 5 years. Only matchpoints counted.
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Update as of February 1st, 2024


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. ATLETICO 1377 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Inter)
Liga - 3rd with 47 pts in 22 games (10 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - qualified for the semi-finals (vs. Athletic)

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3
Atletico - Real Madrid 4-2 (cup)
Atletico - Sevilla 1-0 (cup)



2. INTER 1283 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Atletico)
Serie A - Leader with 54 pts in 21 games (1 point lead over Juventus)
Coppa Italia - eliminated at the Round of 16 by Bologna

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1
Napoli - Inter 0-3



3. ASTON VILLA 1215 pts

Conference League - quaified for the Round of 16
Premier League - 5th with 43 points in 22 games (8 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - are playing the Round of 32 (replay vs Chelsea)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2
Aston Villa - Man City 1-0
Aston Villa - Arsenal 1-0



4. MANCHESTER CITY 1182 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Copenhagen)
Premier League - 2nd with 46 points in 21 games (5 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Luton)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2
Tottenham - Man City 0-1 (cup)



5. NEWCASTLE 1157 pts

Champions League - eliminated at Group Stage level (Dortmund/PSG)
Premier League - 8th with 32 points in 22 games (19 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - Qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Blackburn)
League Cup - eliminated in Quarters by Chelsea

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)
Newcastle - Arsenal 1-0
Newcastle - Chelsea 4-1
Newcastle - Man United 1-0



6. BARCELONA 1150 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Napoli)
Liga - 4th with 47 pts in 22 games (10 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in Quarters by Athletic

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1
Barcelona - Atletico 1-0



7. REAL MADRID 1123 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Leipzig)
Liga - Leader with 57 pts in 22 games (2 point lead over Girona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Braga - Real Madrid 1-2
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2
Real Madrid - Villarreal 4-1



8. ARSENAL 1116 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Porto)
Premier League - 3rd with 46 points in 22 games (5 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in teh Round of 64 by Liverpool
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - PSV 4-0
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0



9. BAYERN 1034 pts

Champions League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Lazio)
Bundesliga - 2nd with 47 pts in 19 games (2 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:

Bayern - Man United 4-3
Copenhagen - Bayern 1-2
Galatasaray - Bayern 1-3
Dortmund - Bayern 0-4
Man United - Bayern 0-1



10. LEVERKUSEN 1023 pts

Europa League - qualified for the Round of 16
Bundesliga - Leader with 49 pts in 19 games (2 point lead over Bayern)
DFB Pokal - Qualified for the Quarters (vs Stuttgart)

Key performances:

Leverkusen - Leipzig 3-2
Leverkusen - Qarabag 5-1
Qarabag - Leverkusen 0-1
Leverkusen - Frankfurt 3-0
Leipzig - Leverkusen 2-3




11. REAL SOCIEDAD 1006 pts
12. LIVERPOOL 994 pts
13. WEST HAM 927 pts
14. BRIGHTON 898 pts
15. GIRONA 895 pts
16. PSV 860 pts
17. MILAN 811 pts
18. LAZIO 786 pts
19. STUTTGART 745 pts
20. ATHLETIC 720 pts




Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Update as of February 29th, 2024


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. INTER 1878 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 1-0 vs Atletico)
Serie A - Leader with 69 pts in 26 games (12 point lead over Juventus)
Coppa Italia - eliminated at the Round of 16 by Bologna

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1
Napoli - Inter 0-3
Inter - Juventus 1-0
Roma - Juventus 2-4
Inter - Atletico 1-0



2. REAL MADRID 1494 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 1-0 vs Leipzig)
Liga - Leader with 65 pts in 26 games (6 point lead over Girona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2
Real Madrid - Villarreal 4-1
Leipzig - Real Madrid 0-1
Real Madrid - Sevilla 1-0



3. ARSENAL 1479 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 0-1 vs Porto)
Premier League - 3rd with 58 points in 26 games (2 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 64 by Liverpool
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0
Arsenal - Liverpool 3-1
West Ham - Arsenal 0-6



4. ATLETICO 1456 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 0-1 vs Inter)
Liga - 4th with 52 pts in 26 games (13 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in semi-finals by Athletic

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3
Atletico - Real Madrid 4-2 (cup)
Atletico - Sevilla 1-0 (cup)



5. MANCHESTER CITY 1332 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 3-1 vs Copenhagen)
Premier League - 2nd with 59 points in 26 games (1 pt behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - qualified for the Quarters (vs Newcastle)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2
Tottenham - Man City 0-1 (cup)



6. LEVERKUSEN 1270 pts

Europa League - qualified for the Round of 16 (vs Qarabag)
Bundesliga - Leader with 61 pts in 23 games (8 point lead over Bayern)
DFB Pokal - Qualified for the Semi-Finals (vs Düsseldorf)

Key performances:

Leverkusen - Leipzig 3-2
Qarabag - Leverkusen 0-1
Leverkusen - Frankfurt 3-0
Leipzig - Leverkusen 2-3
Leverkusen - Bayern 3-0



7. BAYERN 1229 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 0-1 vs Lazio)
Bundesliga - 2nd with 53 pts in 23 games (8 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:

Bayern - Man United 4-3
Copenhagen - Bayern 1-2
Dortmund - Bayern 0-4
Man United - Bayern 0-1
Bayern - Leipzig 2-1



8. BARCELONA 1221 pts

Champions League - are playing the Round of 16 (1st leg 1-1 vs Napoli)
Liga - 3rd with 57 pts in 26 games (8 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in Quarters by Athletic

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1
Barcelona - Atletico 1-0



9. ASTON VILLA 1215 pts

Conference League - quaified for the Round of 16(vs Ajax)
Premier League - 4th with 52 points in 26 games (8 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Chelsea
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2
Aston Villa - Man City 1-0
Aston Villa - Arsenal 1-0



10. NEWCASTLE 1157 pts

Champions League - eliminated at Group Stage level (Dortmund/PSG)
Premier League - 10th with 37 points in 26 games (23 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - Qualified for the Quarters (vs Man City)
League Cup - eliminated in Quarters by Chelsea

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)
Newcastle - Arsenal 1-0
Newcastle - Chelsea 4-1
Newcastle - Man United 1-0



11. LIVERPOOL 1112 pts
12. MILAN 1077 pts
13. LAZIO 1036 pts
14. REAL SOCIEDAD 1006 pts
15. WOLVES 977 pts
16. PSV 958 pts
17. WEST HAM 927 pts
18. GIRONA 923 pts
19. BRIGHTON 898 pts
20. PARIS 881 pts




Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after CL R16 1st leg and EL/ECL play-offs


2558 - SPAIN
2516 - ENGLAND
2340 - ITALY
1975 - FRANCE
1598 - GERMANY
1116 - BELGIUM
1002 - NETHERLANDS
884 - PORTUGAL
614 - SCOTLAND
528 - AUSTRIA



only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
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Update as of 1st of april, 2024


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. INTER 1927 pts

Champions League - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico
Serie A - Leader with 79 pts in 30 games (14 point lead over Milan)
Coppa Italia - eliminated at the Round of 16 by Bologna

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1
Napoli - Inter 0-3
Inter - Juventus 1-0
Roma - Juventus 2-4
Inter - Atletico 1-0



2. ATLETICO 1879 pts

Champions League - qualified for the QF (vs Dortmund)
Liga - 4th with 58 pts in 30 games (17 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in semi-finals by Athletic

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3
Atletico - Real Madrid 4-2 (cup)
Atletico - Sevilla 1-0 (cup)
Atletico - Inter 2-1
Villarreal - Atletico 1-2



3. ARSENAL 1711 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the QF (vs Bayern)
Premier League - 2nd with 65 points in 29 games (2 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 64 by Liverpool
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0
Arsenal - Liverpool 3-1
West Ham - Arsenal 0-6
Arsenal - Porto 1-0



4. MANCHESTER CITY 1705 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the QF (vs Real Madrid)
Premier League - 3rd with 64 points in 29 games (3 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - qualified for the semi-finals (vs Chelsea)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2
Tottenham - Man City 0-1 (cup)
Man City - Man United 3-1



5. REAL MADRID 1559 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the QF (vs Man City)
Liga - Leader with 75 pts in 30 games (12 point lead over Barcelona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2
Real Madrid - Villarreal 4-1
Leipzig - Real Madrid 0-1
Real Madrid - Sevilla 1-0



6. BARCELONA 1506 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the QF (vs Paris)
Liga - 2nd with 67 pts in 30 games (12 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in Quarters by Athletic

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1
Barcelona - Atletico 1-0
Barcelona - Napoli 3-1
Atletico - Barcelona 0-3



7. LEVERKUSEN 1465 pts

Europa League - Qualified for the QF (vs West Ham)
Bundesliga - Leader with 73 pts in 27 games (13 point lead over Bayern)
DFB Pokal - Qualified for the Semi-Finals (vs Düsseldorf)

Key performances:

Leverkusen - Leipzig 3-2
Qarabag - Leverkusen 0-1
Leverkusen - Frankfurt 3-0
Leipzig - Leverkusen 2-3
Leverkusen - Bayern 3-0



8. ASTON VILLA 1451 pts

Conference League - Qualified for QF (vs Lille)
Premier League - 4th with 59 points in 29 games (8 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Chelsea
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2
Aston Villa - Man City 1-0
Aston Villa - Arsenal 1-0
Aston Villa - Ajax 4-0



9. MILAN 1446 pts

Europa League - Qualified for the QF (vs Roma)
Seria A - 2nd with 65 pts in 30 games (11 pts behind Inter)
Coppa Italia - eliminated in QF by Atalanta

Key performances:
Roma - Milan 1-2
Milan - Paris 2-1
Milan - Roma 3-1
Milan - Napoli 1-0
Slavia Praha - Milan 1-3




10. NEWCASTLE 1343 pts

Champions League - eliminated at Group Stage level (Dortmund/PSG)
Premier League - 8th with 43 points in 29 games (24 pts behind Liverpool)
FA Cup - eliminated in QF by vs Man City
League Cup - eliminated in QF by Chelsea

Key performances:
Newcastle - Man City 1-0 (league cup)
Newcastle - Paris 4-1
Man United - Newcastle 0-3 (league cup)
Newcastle - Arsenal 1-0
Newcastle - Chelsea 4-1
Newcastle - Man United 1-0
Newcastle - West Ham 4-3





11. BAYERN 1323 pts
12. LIVERPOOL 1256 pts
13. LAZIO 1212 pts
14. DORTMUND 1158 pts
15. PARIS 1087 pts
16. BRIGHTON 1086 pts
17. REAL SOCIEDAD 1029 pts
18. PSV 1006 pts
19. GIRONA 1004 pts
20. WOLVES 977 pts





Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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Countries - Points in European Cups only


Update after R16


3163 - ENGLAND
3020 - SPAIN
2691 - ITALY
2254 - FRANCE
2048 - GERMANY
1229 - BELGIUM
1050 - PORTUGAL
1002 - NETHERLANDS
669 - SCOTLAND
548 - AUSTRIA



only performances of the top 10 countries as per the UEFA ranking are monitored


Countries - previous winners
2023 - England
2022 - England
2021 - England
2020 - Germany
2019 - England
2018 - England
2017 - Spain
2016 - Spain
2015 - Spain
2014 - Spain
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Update as of april 29, 2024


This ranking is based on the value of the opponents regardless of the competition* and/or round played.
The value of the opponents is based on coefficients (based on UEFA Coefficients)
Example of coefficients:
- Man City: 90,6 (meaning that a win vs. Man City is worth 3x90,6=271,8 pts)
- between 80 and 90 pts: Bayern
- between 70 and 80 pts: Real Madri, Chelsea, Liverpool
- between 60 and 70 pts: Paris, Roma, Inter, Man United
- between 50 and 60 pts: Juventus, Sevilla, Benfica, Leipzig, Villarreal, Dortmund, Napoli
etc.
* domestic cup points are underweighted by 50%



1. ARSENAL 2190 pts

Champions League - eliminated in QF by Bayern
Premier League - Leader with 80 points in 35 games (1 point lead over Man City)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 64 by Liverpool
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 16 by West Ham

Key performances:
Arsenal - Man United 3-1
Arsenal - Man City 1-0
Sevilla - Arsenal 1-2
Arsenal -Sevilla 2-0
Arsenal - Liverpool 3-1
West Ham - Arsenal 0-6
Arsenal - Porto 1-0
Arsenal - Chelsea 5-0
Tottenham - Arsenal 2-3



2. INTER 2045 pts

Champions League - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico
Champion of Italy 2024
Coppa Italia - eliminated at the Round of 16 by Bologna

Key performances:

Inter - Milan 5-1
Inter - Benfica 1-0
Inter - Salzburg 2-1
Inter - Roma 1-0
Salzburg - Inter 0-1
Napoli - Inter 0-3
Inter - Juventus 1-0
Roma - Juventus 2-4
Inter - Atletico 1-0
Milan - Inter 1-2



3. ATLETICO 2029 pts

Champions League - eliminated in QF by Dortmund
Liga - 4th with 64 pts in 33 games (20 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in semi-finals by Athletic

Key performances:

Atletico - Real Madrid 3-1
Atletico - Feyenoord 3-2
Atletico -Villarreal 3-1
Feyenoord - Atletico 1-3
Atletico - Real Madrid 4-2 (cup)
Atletico - Sevilla 1-0 (cup)
Atletico - Inter 2-1
Villarreal - Atletico 1-2
Atletico - Dormtund 2-1



4. MANCHESTER CITY 1974 pts

Champions League - eliminated in QF by Real Madrid
Premier League - 2nd with 79 points in 34 games (1 pt behind Arsenal)
FA Cup - Qualified for the final (vs Man United)
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Newcastle

Key performances:
West Ham - Man City 1-3
Leipzig - Man City 1-3
Man United - Man City 0-3
Man City - Leipzig 3-2
Tottenham - Man City 0-1 (cup)
Man City - Man United 3-1
Man City - Chelsea 1-0 (cup)



5. REAL MADRID 1970 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the semi-finals (vs Bayern)
Liga - Leader with 84 pts in 33 games (13 point lead over Girona)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in the Round of 16 by Atletico

Key performances:

Napoli - Real Madrid 2-3
Barcelona - Real Madrid 1-2
Real Madrid - Napoli 4-2
Real Madrid - Villarreal 4-1
Leipzig - Real Madrid 0-1
Real Madrid - Sevilla 1-0
Real Madrid - Barcelona 3-2



6. LEVERKUSEN 1747 pts

Europa League - Qualified for the semi-finals (vs Roma)
Champion of Germany 2024
DFB Pokal - Qualified for the Final (vs Kaiserslautern)

Key performances:

Leverkusen - Leipzig 3-2
Leverkusen - Frankfurt 3-0
Leipzig - Leverkusen 2-3
Leverkusen - Bayern 3-0
Leverkusen - West Ham 2-0



7. ASTON VILLA 1706 pts

Conference League - Qualified for semi-finals (vs Olympiakos)
Premier League - 4th with 67 points in 35 games (13 pts behindArsenal)
FA Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Chelsea
League Cup - eliminated in the Round of 32 by Everton

Key performances:
Chelsea - Aston Villa 0-1
Aston Villa - West Ham 4-1
AZ Alkmaar - Aston Villa 1-4
Aston Villa - AZ Alkmaar 2-1
Tottenham - Aston Villa 1-2
Aston Villa - Man City 1-0
Aston Villa - Arsenal 1-0
Aston Villa - Ajax 4-0
Arsenal - Aston Villa 0-2



8. BARCELONA 1700 pts

Champions League - eliminated in QF by Paris
Liga - 3rd with 70 pts in 32 games (14 pts behind Real Madrid)
Copa del Rey - eliminated in Quarters by Athletic

Key performances:

Villarreal - Barcelona 3-4
Barcelona - Sevilla 1-0
Porto - Barcelona 0-1
Barcelona - Shakhtar 2-1
Barcelona - Porto 2-1
Barcelona - Atletico 1-0
Barcelona - Napoli 3-1
Atletico - Barcelona 0-3
Paris - Barcelona 2-3



9. BAYERN 1689 pts

Champions League - Qualified for the semi-finals (vs Real Madrid)
Bundesliga - 2nd with 69 pts in 31 games (12 pts behind Leverkusen)
DFB Pokal - eliminated in the R32 by Sarrbrücken

Key performances:
Bayern - Man United 4-3
Dortmund - Bayern 0-4
Man United - Bayern 0-1
Bayern - Leipzig 2-1
Bayern - Arsenal 1-0
Bayern - Frankfurt 2-1



10. MILAN 1505 pts

Europa League - eliminated in QF by Roma
Seria A - 2nd with 70 pts in 34 games (19 pts behind Inter)
Coppa Italia - eliminated in QF by Atalanta

Key performances:
Roma - Milan 1-2
Milan - Paris 2-1
Milan - Roma 3-1
Milan - Napoli 1-0
Slavia Praha - Milan 1-3






11. NEWCASTLE 1471 pts
12. LIVERPOOL 1458 pts
13. DORTMUND 1374 pts
14. PARIS 1364 pts
15. LAZIO 1300 pts
16. STUTTGART 1244 pts
17. WEST HAM 1184 pts
18. ATALANTA 1145 pts
19. PSV 1137 pts
20. BOLOGNA 1109 pts





Last 10 years winners
2023 - Manchester City
2022 - Liverpool
2021 - Manchester City
2020 - Bayern
2019 - Barcelona
2018 - Barcelona
2017 - Real Madrid
2016 - Barcelona
2015 - Barcelona
2014 - Atlético
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