CL Revenue Distribution

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Hi. For the 2024-27 cycle, we need to know the media market value ranks for all countries for UCL and UEL/UECL in order to calculate prize money from the European part of the value pillar. Based on the numbers I have, the ranking will be something like this:

1. England
2. France/Germany
3. Germany/France
4. Spain
5. Italy
6. Sweden
7. Norway
8. Scotland
9. Austria
10. Netherlands
11. Türkiye
12. Denmark
13. Switzerland

Czech Republic, Greece and Israel are also probably in the mix among these placements.

However, we need more accuracy, and more info about the lower media market value countries. It would therefore be great if you could post some rumoured figures from media deals around Europe. Links to articles, and other kinds of info are also very appreciated.
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I have finally got around to doing the analysis of revenues received for the 2022/23 season for the various European trophies. I have been absent for a few months this season for travel and returned a few weeks ago but have only recently found time to search for and do analysis on the financial distribution to clubs for last season.

My usual type of analysis as I have done in previous seasons:-

Amount that each association has earned in Euros over the last 5 completed seasons per club per each point when compared to its coefficient value:

Association Ratio B
France 637,640.65
Spain 622,549.17
England 592,439.97
Germany 565,794.17
Russia* 564,590.27
Italy 541,259.96
Ukraine 487,297.84
Portugal 457,868.59
Greece 324,267.75
Austria 318,324.92
Turkey 310,680.89
Netherlands 307,701.50
Belgium 297,454.92
San Marino 234,583.96
Denmark 233,831.66
Croatia 219,179.54
Czech Republic 215,014.81
Switzerland 212,906.20
Scotland 195,600.82
Sweden 187,207.61
Moldova 170,955.10
Serbia 166,058.69
Hungary 154,675.84
Bulgaria 150,582.59
Norway 150,261.44
Israel 135,418.00
Azerbaijan 134,661.52
Cyprus 129,647.86
Belarus 126,947.42
Romania 120,026.83
Gibraltar 111,887.61
Finland 106,990.24
Liechtenstein 106,945.45
Montenegro 105,578.95
North Macedonia 105,518.18
Kazakhstan 104,457.72
Luxembourg 104,291.42
Estonia 97,834.05
Poland 94,763.86
Albania 93,968.00
Andorra 93,539.85
Armenia 90,506.33
Ireland 90,183.13
Slovakia 87,610.92
Wales 85,707.70
Lithuania 84,160.00
Iceland 78,816.70
Kosovo 77,716.82
Latvia 75,854.12
Malta 75,048.48
Slovenia 74,272.00
Georgia 73,912.50
Faroe Islands 73,587.97
Northern Ireland 73,210.81
Bosnia-Herzegovina 65,333.33

If you compare to previous analysis from the last five seasons posted a few pages back on here you will se that once again France does best based on this particular kind of analysis. Countries who struggle to get teams into group stages generally do worse although their lot has improved slightly with the introduction of the Conference league and enhanced solidarity payouts for exiting before a group stage.

* For Russia the value should be taken with a pinch of salt now due to an artificial coefficient amount and no payments received for the latest year in which payouts are known in full.

My next normal piece of analysis will follow shortly.
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Next look at the history of the breakdown of the prize money between various categories grouped according to country coefficient ranking by my normal method:-

Year % 1-5 % 6-15 % 16-30 % 31-nn Check
1993 46.80% 40.80% 12.40% 0.00% 100.00%
1994 69.50% 30.50% 0.00% 0.00% 100.00%
1995 44.84% 36.34% 12.86% 5.96% 100.00%
1996 43.74% 39.00% 17.27% 0.00% 100.00%
1997 57.87% 28.76% 13.37% 0.00% 100.00%
1998 65.26% 26.85% 7.89% 0.00% 100.00%
1999 52.22% 39.38% 6.21% 2.19% 100.00%
2000 63.92% 27.20% 7.57% 1.32% 100.00%
2001 73.27% 19.35% 6.28% 1.10% 100.00%
2002 74.14% 21.76% 3.03% 1.07% 100.00%
2003 77.65% 15.81% 5.50% 1.04% 100.00%
2004 69.17% 23.88% 5.66% 1.28% 100.00%
2005 73.24% 21.65% 3.71% 1.39% 100.00%
2006 72.55% 21.18% 4.90% 1.37% 100.00%
2007 66.76% 26.45% 5.01% 1.78% 100.00%
2008 65.82% 27.87% 4.36% 1.96% 100.00%
2009 67.24% 23.34% 6.68% 2.74% 100.00%
2010 64.69% 26.21% 5.69% 3.41% 100.00%
2011 60.03% 28.98% 8.84% 2.16% 100.00%
2012 61.24% 25.51% 11.32% 1.92% 100.00%
2013 57.83% 30.11% 10.04% 2.02% 100.00%
2014 58.26% 28.95% 10.35% 2.43% 100.00%
2015 58.83% 28.85% 10.23% 2.09% 100.00%
2016 59.79% 27.76% 9.29% 3.16% 100.00%
2017 58.58% 27.98% 11.12% 2.32% 100.00%
2018 64.20% 22.84% 10.37% 2.60% 100.00%
2019 65.23% 26.10% 6.13% 2.53% 100.00%
2020 67.13% 22.79% 7.74% 2.34% 100.00%
2021 66.68% 22.50% 7.97% 2.85% 100.00%
2022 62.55% 24.53% 9.27% 3.65% 100.00%
2023 64.04% 20.76% 11.88% 3.32% 100.00%

Now given that the format has not changed at all since last season's introduction of the Europa Conference League what are the main reasons for the change between the last two seasons?

There will always be a natural random fluctuation between one season and the next but the first main reason is obvious. Russia, who fall into the second category above, earned nothing in the last reported season and so the other categories will increase a bit accordingly in percentage terms.

There are two other factors though. One is that COVID deductions have no longer been applied in the latest published figures which tends to help the better ranked nations as these deductions were only taken from group stages onwards.

The other factor that helps the lower ranked associations is that the guaranteed EUR 100 000 per round that was uplifted by just over 5% in the penultimate season was uplifted by over 14% last season.

So why has 31-nn percentage decreased? This puzzled me a little, but when I looked into it I found that it was entirely due to one team! More than entirely due in fact! Sheriff won a large sum of money for its CL group stage participation 2 seasons ago and was unable to earn anything like that amount last season. The amount earned by this last category is still substantially above that earned before the introduction of the conference league though.

For anyone wanting to look at the figures themselves and do their own analysis the link is the same as that provided by Bert for last season a few pages before this except for 22/23 replacing 21/22 of course.
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For anyone who looks at the pdf document the relevant pages for the financial distribution for the 3 club competitions are:-

15 - Solidarity payments to clubs and associations.
34/35 - CL
38/39 - EL
42/43 - ECL

Just a couple of little random extra pieces of information.

Ballkani's first season earning money on the list earned them more money that any other Kosovan club had earned in all of the years so far.

FC Vaduz earned more last season by reaching the group stage than in the previous 9 seasons combined worth of solidarity payments indicating the importance, if anyone didn't already know of reaching the group stages from a financial point of view. The season before that was the one that USV Eschen Mauren qualified to represent Liechtenstein, so you could also say that the earnings from European football were more than their previous 10 seasons combined.
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Fotcalc wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 17:19 Hi. For the 2024-27 cycle, we need to know the media market value ranks for all countries for UCL and UEL/UECL in order to calculate prize money from the European part of the value pillar. Based on the numbers I have, the ranking will be something like this:

1. England
2. France/Germany
3. Germany/France
4. Spain
5. Italy
6. Sweden
7. Norway
8. Scotland
9. Austria
10. Netherlands
11. Türkiye
12. Denmark
13. Switzerland

Czech Republic, Greece and Israel are also probably in the mix among these placements.

However, we need more accuracy, and more info about the lower media market value countries. It would therefore be great if you could post some rumoured figures from media deals around Europe. Links to articles, and other kinds of info are also very appreciated.
In Poland, CL rights will be taken over by Canal+. Unofficial value is less than 100m EUR. Unfortunately no precise amount here, and I'm not sure how to rank us in the list. And if you want a source, it's from a video on YouTube in Polish, so I don't know if it helps.

The EL/ECL deal is not officially done yet, but allegedly will be closed by Polsat, which has CL rights in the current cycle. No information on any amounts here.
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Sky Italia paid more than EUR 900m/season for the 2024-27 media rights to all three competitions in Italy.

https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2023/05/1 ... ons-cifre/
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Thank you. I will take this new info into consideration. For the Polish deal, was the amount under € 100m for the whole cycle (not per season)?
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About GBP 1,500m/season total in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... e-football
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Tazmania wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 14:46 About GBP 1,500m/season total in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... e-football
This is in total, not per season. But still, thanks!
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Fotcalc wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 14:07 Thank you. I will take this new info into consideration. For the Polish deal, was the amount under € 100m for the whole cycle (not per season)?
It was not stated clearly, but I think they meant for the whole cycle.
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Fotcalc wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 14:54
Tazmania wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 14:46 About GBP 1,500m/season total in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... e-football
This is in total, not per season. But still, thanks!
No, it is per season.

By total I was referring to it being the total paid by the two rights holders: TNT (formerly BT) and BBC.
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Tazmania wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 15:08 No, it is per season.

By total I was referring to it being the total paid by the two rights holders: TNT (formerly BT) and BBC.
My numbers indicate that this is not per season. Also, that is what the article says.
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This kind of information is sometimes reported inaccurately by sports journalists, but I am confident it is per season. What makes you think it is for the 3-year cycle?

If it is about GBP 500m/season, that would mean the UCCs are worth over 7 times less than the EPL's combined domestic and foreign media rights contracts; that would be impossible.
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Yes, you're right, they are cycle amounts not seasonal; so for Italy is would be EUR 300m/season.
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Juliusz wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 13:28 In Poland, CL rights will be taken over by Canal+. Unofficial value is less than 100m EUR. Unfortunately no precise amount here, and I'm not sure how to rank us in the list. And if you want a source, it's from a video on YouTube in Polish, so I don't know if it helps.

The EL/ECL deal is not officially done yet, but allegedly will be closed by Polsat, which has CL rights in the current cycle. No information on any amounts here.
If the UCL deal is about € 30m per year. My estimate is that Poland is placed between Denmark and Switzerland. I don't know how they are ranked when including Czech Republic, Greece and Israel. But between Denmark and Switzerland is my best asumption for now. Very difficult to know of course.
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