2022 WC Qatar - final tournament

[greenbay]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2 ... d-cup-win/

[Lorric]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-cup/2 ... d-cup-win/

Thanks. That's quite a picture. He really went all in on that from the looks of it!

[Ed]

@Ed

Is it possible for you to do a calculation of how many FIFA points confederations gained or lost from this World Cup? As well as the totals, it would be interesting to see who was taking from others as well, since it just becomes pure gains after the group stage.

Total FIFA-points won per CONFED in group stage and ko stage and for the complete tournament:

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CONFED		from		group	ko	total

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AFC				  18	  4	 22
CAF				 127	 50	177
CONCACAF			 -33	  0	-33
CONMEBOL			 -12	 77	 65
UEFA				-100	127	 27
						
total				   0	258	258

FIFA-points won by a CONFED from the other CONFEDS in group stage and ko stage and for the complete tournament:

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AFC		CAF		 -23	  0	-23
AFC		CONCACAF	 -69	  0	-69
AFC		CONMEBOL	  20	  0	 20
AFC		UEFA		  90	  4	 94

CAF		AFC		  23	  0	 23
CAF		CONCACAF	  18	  0	 18
CAF		CONMEBOL	  46	  0	 46
CAF		UEFA		  40	 50	 90

CONCACAF	AFC		  69	  0	 69
CONCACAF	CAF		 -18	  0	-18
CONCACAF	CONMEBOL	 -20	  0	-20
CONCACAF	UEFA		 -64	  0	-64

CONMEBOL	AFC		 -20	 26	  6
CONMEBOL	CAF		 -46	  0	-46
CONMEBOL	CONCACAF	  20	  0	 20
CONMEBOL	UEFA		  34	 51	 85

UEFA		AFC		 -90	  9	-81
UEFA		CAF		 -40	 69	 29
UEFA		CONCACAF	  64	 22	 86
UEFA		CONMEBOL	 -34	 27	 -7
				
total				   0	258	258

UEFA		UEFA		  68	 70	138

Biggest points exchanges in group:
Cameroon - Brazil 41 pts
Saudi Arabia - Argentina 39 pts
Tunisia - France 38 pts
Morocco - Belgium 36 pts
Korea Republic - Portugal 34 pts

Most points won in ko stage:
Morocco - Portugal 34 pts

[bugylibicska]

@Ed

Is it possible for you to do a calculation of how many FIFA points confederations gained or lost from this World Cup? As well as the totals, it would be interesting to see who was taking from others as well, since it just becomes pure gains after the group stage.

Total FIFA-points won per CONFED in group stage and ko stage and for the complete tournament:

Code: Select all

CONFED		from		group	ko	total

Code: Select all

AFC				  18	  4	 22
CAF				 127	 50	177
CONCACAF			 -33	  0	-33
CONMEBOL			 -12	 77	 65
UEFA				-100	127	 27
						
total				   0	258	258

FIFA-points won by a CONFED from the other CONFEDS in group stage and ko stage and for the complete tournament:

Code: Select all

AFC		CAF		 -23	  0	-23
AFC		CONCACAF	 -69	  0	-69
AFC		CONMEBOL	  20	  0	 20
AFC		UEFA		  90	  4	 94

CAF		AFC		  23	  0	 23
CAF		CONCACAF	  18	  0	 18
CAF		CONMEBOL	  46	  0	 46
CAF		UEFA		  40	 50	 90

CONCACAF	AFC		  69	  0	 69
CONCACAF	CAF		 -18	  0	-18
CONCACAF	CONMEBOL	 -20	  0	-20
CONCACAF	UEFA		 -64	  0	-64

CONMEBOL	AFC		 -20	 26	  6
CONMEBOL	CAF		 -46	  0	-46
CONMEBOL	CONCACAF	  20	  0	 20
CONMEBOL	UEFA		  34	 51	 85

UEFA		AFC		 -90	  9	-81
UEFA		CAF		 -40	 69	 29
UEFA		CONCACAF	  64	 22	 86
UEFA		CONMEBOL	 -34	 27	 -7
				
total				   0	258	258

UEFA		UEFA		  68	 70	138

Biggest points exchanges in group:
Cameroon - Brazil 41 pts
Saudi Arabia - Argentina 39 pts
Tunisia - France 38 pts
Morocco - Belgium 36 pts
Korea Republic - Portugal 34 pts

Most points won in ko stage:
Morocco - Portugal 34 pts

So, Japan beating Germany and Spain couldn't make the list? Weird.

[bugylibicska]

Why Argentina is the last country to love Messi: The 'problem' of having the two best footballers in history

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/soccer/ ... ead4skukpb

Yes, Argentineans are not rational alright. A guy scores two goals in a game, both of which were needed to win the match. One of supreme quality, an all time great goal, and another which profanes and subverts the very spirit of the game, putting the ball in the back of the net with his hand, and he gets lauded for the hand.

Ahány ház, annyi szokás = as many houses, as many customs (there is no accounting for tastes). Argentina celebrate Maradona and Messi and England celebrate Beckham and Gary Neville. No problem, only a tiny difference.

[Lorric]

@Ed

Thank you very much!

So Africa were the predators of this World Cup. They seized points from every confederation in the group stage. And were the overall points gain leader by a vast margin.

UEFA was barely able to claw back the great losses of the group stage. We could only take points from CONCACAF, and we took a lot, the big loser of this cup and the only confederation to take an overall loss.

AFC was the only other confederation to make gains in the group stage, largely at the expense of UEFA. They took more points from UEFA than CAF and CONMEBOL combined. But their story ended in the last 16 with a small overall gain.

CONMEBOL overall lost out in the group stage but made good gains in the KO stage to be second best.

[mspm89]

One thing I think nobody's mentioned is how awesome it was that the Golden Boot of the tournament was being fought in the Final, and with a few twists and turns well into extra time, since Messi would've won the first tiebreaker over Mbappé (number of assists). I think this was completely unprecedented.

[Ed]

So, Japan beating Germany and Spain couldn't make the list? Weird.

Japan - Spain 31 pts; Japan - Germany 29 pts. The points-difference between both European giants and Japan was not big enough to account for record-high points exchanges.

[Ricardo]

New conspiracy theory: after the "its made for Argentina", now "its made for PSG".
The human imagination has no limits.

If you want to stay naive, do so. Infantino has made it clear again that money is everything. Qatar has shown that entertainment is more important then some lives. I’d like to think that everything went sportively, but it’s naive not to consider it. There are no objective people. Be naive and soon Putin will rule your country.

[Ed]

One final remark on the biggest group stage points exchanges: 3 of the 5 were realized on the third matchday against complete (Brazil, France) or partial (Portugal) B-teams.

[babaluj1]

@Ed

Thank you very much!

So Africa were the predators of this World Cup. They seized points from every confederation in the group stage. And were the overall points gain leader by a vast margin.

UEFA was barely able to claw back the great losses of the group stage. We could only take points from CONCACAF, and we took a lot, the big loser of this cup and the only confederation to take an overall loss.

AFC was the only other confederation to make gains in the group stage, largely at the expense of UEFA. They took more points from UEFA than CAF and CONMEBOL combined. But their story ended in the last 16 with a small overall gain.

CONMEBOL overall lost out in the group stage but made good gains in the KO stage to be second best.

At this championship, the great progress of the African national teams, as well as the Asian ones, is visible. We can certainly expect even more African and Asian players in the strongest European leagues, which will contribute to the further strengthening of these national teams. The next championship on the North American continent will be even better and even more uncertain. It's good that the number of countries is increasing to 48, because there are certainly more than 32 quality national teams in the world today. I am primarily referring to Europe and Africa, but this also applies to Asia and South America. If we add to that that the hosts will be Mexico, USA and Canada, it will be a real spectacle.

[Lyonnais]

One final remark on the biggest group stage points exchanges: 3 of the 5 were realized on the third matchday against complete (Brazil, France) or partial (Portugal) B-teams.

definitely.

[Dragonite]

Martinez of course picked up the Golden Glove, I'm not sure if that was mentioned here.

Of course?!

vs Saudi Arabia conceded 2 goals from 2 shots on goal
vs Mexico clean sheet with 1 shot on goal
vs Poland clean sheet with 0 shots on goal
vs Australia conceded 1 goal from 1 shot on goal
vs Netherlands conceded 2 goals from 2 shots on goal
vs Croatia clean sheet with 2 shots on goal
vs France conceded 3 goals with 5 shots on goal

TOTAL: conceded 8 goals from 13 shots on goal

Golden glove, sure!

Still regarding Emiliano Martínez...

The above analysis was without the penalty shootouts

Including the penalty shootouts, he saved 2 of Netherlands' 5 penalty kicks, and against France he saved 1 (with his face by the way, must be a new trend alongside the hair dye) of 3 shots on goal (Tchouameni missed the target)

So Emiliano Martínez's total including penalty shootouts is 13 goals conceded from 21 shots on goal


Golden Glove?! Give him the Butterfingers award instead

[wawrinka1]

Martinez of course picked up the Golden Glove, I'm not sure if that was mentioned here.

Of course?!

vs Saudi Arabia conceded 2 goals from 2 shots on goal
vs Mexico clean sheet with 1 shot on goal
vs Poland clean sheet with 0 shots on goal
vs Australia conceded 1 goal from 1 shot on goal
vs Netherlands conceded 2 goals from 2 shots on goal
vs Croatia clean sheet with 2 shots on goal
vs France conceded 3 goals with 5 shots on goal

TOTAL: conceded 8 goals from 13 shots on goal

Golden glove, sure!

Still regarding Emiliano Martínez...

The above analysis was without the penalty shootouts

Including the penalty shootouts, he saved 2 of Netherlands' 5 penalty kicks, and against France he saved 1 (with his face by the way, must be a new trend alongside the hair dye) of 3 shots on goal (Tchouameni missed the target)

So Emiliano Martínez's total including penalty shootouts is 13 goals conceded from 21 shots on goal


Golden Glove?! Give him the Butterfingers award instead

Golden glove Award was a disgrace on This WC. Shame on FIFA

[bugylibicska]

NEW FIFA RANKINGS

1) Brazil

2) Argentina (up 1)

3) France (up 1)

4) Belgium (down 2)

5) England

6) Holland (up 2)

7) Croatia (up 5)

8.) Italy (down 2)

9) Portugal

10) Spain (down 3)

11) Morocco (up 11)

12) Switzerland (up 3)

13) USA (up 3)

14) Germany (down 3)

15) Mexico (down 2)

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/fifa-w ... 9a3d73d708