In theory Russia will be assigned 4.333 coefficient points in an infinite loop.
...Or will they? As I see this, it all comes down to the interpretation of the word "earned"
*Due to the suspension of all Russian national teams and clubs from UEFA competitions until further notice, as decided by the UEFA Executive Committee on 28 February 2022, having as a consequence that no Russian clubs are participating in the current 2023/24 UEFA club competitions season, Russia will be assigned with the lowest amount of coefficient points they have earned over the last five seasons, i.e. 4.333 points for the men’s association club coefficient and 1.750 for the women’s association club coefficient upon completion of the 2023/24 season.
If "earned" coefficient points doesn't include assigned ones, Russia will get 4.333 in the 24/25 season too and 5.300(!) in 25/26. Then nothing from the 26/27 season. Do you agree that this in theory applies?
Fotcalc wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 14:27
In theory Russia will be assigned 4.333 coefficient points in an infinite loop.
...Or will they? As I see this, it all comes down to the interpretation of the word "earned"
*Due to the suspension of all Russian national teams and clubs from UEFA competitions until further notice, as decided by the UEFA Executive Committee on 28 February 2022, having as a consequence that no Russian clubs are participating in the current 2023/24 UEFA club competitions season, Russia will be assigned with the lowest amount of coefficient points they have earned over the last five seasons, i.e. 4.333 points for the men’s association club coefficient and 1.750 for the women’s association club coefficient upon completion of the 2023/24 season.
If "earned" coefficient points doesn't include assigned ones, Russia will get 4.333 in the 24/25 season too and 5.300(!) in 25/26. Then nothing from the 26/27 season. Do you agree that this in theory applies?
As I understand it Russia will get 5.300 at next season if they are still banned and if they are still member of UEFA. Practically it doesn't change anything since war doesn't seem to end soon and Russia is below 15th place.
I don’t see what you mean. The last five seasons next season is 20/21 - 24/25. They earned 4.333 coefficient points (on the pitch) in the 20/21 season.
Fotcalc wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 21:51
I don’t see what you mean. The last five seasons next season is 20/21 - 24/25. They earned 4.333 coefficient points (on the pitch) in the 20/21 season.
I mean as it is written I understand they will get the points they got playing and not awarded (4.333 more for 24/25, 5.300 for 25/26 and no points after). Practically Russia doesn't affect the current access list since they are below 15th place. Being at top 15 we had one club less at CL-nc path cause rebalancing could not replace the missing Russian club. Being below 15th place the rebalancing will correct everything and practically all countries below Russia will be treated like being one place higher at the rankings.
anty1975 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 15:56
Russian U17 teams allowed back https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/17 ... 5957736696 Yes, kids obviously can't be blamed for the war but still I think its a wrong move, Russian propagandists will have a field day
Its just semantics, because this logic can be used to null almost every sanction "its not their fault" but its wrong move, a first of many for sure.
U-17 doesn't represent the russian youth but Russia as a whole (even those who doesn't like football), the same Russia that is still occupying Ukraine and attacking it till this day. Nothing has changed, Russian hasn't changed, only western people are getting tired and moving towards another trendy thing.
But that is not the point and I am also not interested in politics. The fact is UEFA is again hypocritic and double-faced, as some countries are allowed to wage wars, bomb civilians etc. and others not.
But that is not the point and I am also not interested in politics. The fact is UEFA is again hypocritic and double-faced, as some countries are allowed to wage wars, bomb civilians etc. and others not.
Whataboutism is the new word nowadays of "highlight of the inconsistancies of the great powers"". We just have to pick a sentence of the Western diplomacy one year ago and what they say since 5 days, it is just crazy. I would have laugh if thousands of lives were not at stake.
Phocea wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 13:17
Whataboutism is the new word nowadays of "highlight of the inconsistancies of the great powers"". We just have to pick a sentence of the Western diplomacy one year ago and what they say since 5 days, it is just crazy. I would have laugh if thousands of lives were not at stake.
Nah, whataboutism can be used as an argument if it is accurate but when a guy compares Israel's war against Hamas with Russia's invasion in Ukraine thats way off the mark and doesn't prove anything.
