Ukrainian football season 2022-23

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HugoBenfica12 wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:28
kleber wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 22:14
HugoBenfica12 wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 22:30
Dnipro-1
The Leicester of Ukraine
No.

Leicester had the 10 or 11 best squad of the league.
Dnipro-1 have the third best squad of the league.
Third best squad? Why
Dnipro-1 has a fairly wealthy and influential owner, which cannot be said about other middle-class clubs, so they are close to Dynamo and Shakhtar in this regard
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after 18 round
1.Shakhtar 42 (1)
2.Dnipro 39 (1)
3.Zorya 37
4.Dynamo 33
5.Olexandria 28 (1)

It looks like everything is going to the championship of Shakhtar... Dynamo may well not even take 3rd place, the team has lost a lot of great players over the past year + lost chemistry with the head coach and the second is probably even more important than the first

Zorya is headed by a coach from the Netherlands Patrick van Leeuwen, a good specialist for the current Ukrainian league

Dnipro is somewhat disappointing in the spring, maybe this is their real level, in autumn they jumped over their heads
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after 25 rounds
1.Shakhtar 60
2.Dnipro 58
3.Zorya 55
4.Dynamo 50
5.Olexandria 39
6.Kolos 33
7.Kryvbass 32
8.Vorskla 30 (finally, they will not represent Ukraine in the Conference League, otherwise they tired me with their knockouts in the 2nd round two seasons in a row )
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Metallica1989 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 23:17 after 25 rounds
1.Shakhtar 60
2.Dnipro 58
3.Zorya 55
4.Dynamo 50
5.Olexandria 39
6.Kolos 33
7.Kryvbass 32
8.Vorskla 30 (finally, they will not represent Ukraine in the Conference League, otherwise they tired me with their knockouts in the 2nd round two seasons in a row )
Right now, Vorskla is finishing 5th with the HT results :grin1:
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Oleksandrya can't beat Rukh, and Vorskla with an impressive 5/5 and 15 points gets 5th and ECLQ2!

Dnipro keeps 2nd place and CLQ2.
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Well, the first military championship is over(unfortunately not the last, I am not a big optimist that the war will end soon, so we can spend a few more seasons in such conditions), thanks to the army that we have at least what we have

Shakhtar once again proved that the key to the success of the club is not in the recruitment of players, but in competent management, which managed to make a serious breakthrough this year. In the summer of 2022, there was simply no team, all the legionnaires left, the prospects seemed vague, but now we can say that Shakhtar is confident in the future and is ready to continue developing and returning to his level.

Dynamo, to which everyone predicted an easy championship before the start, failed the season, because at some point the players got tired of Lucescu + the competitors turned out to be strong. Dnipro has ambitions and good funding for Ukraine. Zorya invited a Dutch specialist(Patrick van Leuven) in the summer and spent the whole season smoothly, demonstrating attractive football
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Firnen wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 16:01 Oleksandrya can't beat Rukh, and Vorskla with an impressive 5/5 and 15 points gets 5th and ECLQ2!

Dnipro keeps 2nd place and CLQ2.
Yes, it turned out funny, I was delighted ahead of time that Vorskla allegedly lost its chances for ECLQ2
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So Dnipro debuts in CL qualifiers.
Any info about this team?
I know the official story, but is Dnipro-1 considered a new team or just continues their predecessor history?
Are they going to play in Ukraine or abroad?
Are they going to be competitive or there are the common restrictions due to the f* war?
fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues

http://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum2/viewtop ... 52#p359852
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og2002gr wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 18:06 So Dnipro debuts in CL qualifiers.
Any info about this team?
I know the official story, but is Dnipro-1 considered a new team or just continues their predecessor history?
Are they going to play in Ukraine or abroad?
Are they going to be competitive or there are the common restrictions due to the f* war?
On paper, Dnipro-1 is a different club, but in reality, the former owner, in order not to pay debts, created a new club. Although he himself denies his connection in every possible way, the figurehead is the president of the club, but he really gives money

the war affected this team to a lesser extent, perhaps even on the contrary, they added compared to the pre-war period

all Ukrainian teams play abroad in eurocups
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Many Greek teams have done the same trick, managed to get rid of their debts, but also managed to keep their name, their emblem, their colors and most of their fans continue to feel like it is the same team.
I think this is the most important criterion. Do the Dnipro fanbase keep feeling Dnipro-1 as their team?
fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues

http://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum2/viewtop ... 52#p359852
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og2002gr wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 18:52 Many Greek teams have done the same trick, managed to get rid of their debts, but also managed to keep their name, their emblem, their colors and most of their fans continue to feel like it is the same team.
I think this is the most important criterion. Do the Dnipro fanbase keep feeling Dnipro-1 as their team?
They do.
It's the same team in every way that matters.
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Do the Dnipro fanbase keep feeling Dnipro-1 as their team?


there is a fan sector, they definitely do not think so
but there are ordinary fans, they support the new team as a continuation of the old one
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Firnen wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 19:15
og2002gr wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 18:52 Many Greek teams have done the same trick, managed to get rid of their debts, but also managed to keep their name, their emblem, their colors and most of their fans continue to feel like it is the same team.
I think this is the most important criterion. Do the Dnipro fanbase keep feeling Dnipro-1 as their team?
They do.
It's the same team in every way that matters.
Would you consider Olympiacos-1, with blue colors and a shield as an emblem as your team, even if it was Marinakis, Karapapas etc in the club?
Maybe it is just me that feels different.

Thanks Metallica for clarifying the situation.
fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues :arrow: fewer spots :arrow: weaker leagues

http://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum2/viewtop ... 52#p359852
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og2002gr wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 20:10
Firnen wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 19:15
og2002gr wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 18:52 Many Greek teams have done the same trick, managed to get rid of their debts, but also managed to keep their name, their emblem, their colors and most of their fans continue to feel like it is the same team.
I think this is the most important criterion. Do the Dnipro fanbase keep feeling Dnipro-1 as their team?
They do.
It's the same team in every way that matters.
Would you consider Olympiacos-1, with blue colors and a shield as an emblem as your team, even if it was Marinakis, Karapapas etc in the club?
Maybe it is just me that feels different.

Thanks Metallica for clarifying the situation.
A lot of Greek teams have changed names "officially" : Iraklis, Panionios, Panachaiki for example. They didn't added a "-1" but a "Neos Panionios", "AEP Iraklis", "Panachaiki 2014" etc.
So I think that most fans accept it.
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