2025 FIFA Club World Cup, USA (first 32-team edition)

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That is, we now know that
In case of a tie, the criteria are:
1) Best individual result achieved during the qualifying period
2) Most recent best result
3) Best goal difference
4) Most goals scored
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max tre wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 19:14 That is, we now know that
In case of a tie, the criteria are:
1) Best individual result achieved during the qualifying period
2) Most recent best result
3) Best goal difference
4) Most goals scored
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 21:54
max tre wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 19:14 That is, we now know that
In case of a tie, the criteria are:
1) Best individual result achieved during the qualifying period
2) Most recent best result
3) Best goal difference
4) Most goals scored
Source?
amenina wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 01:25 Mundial de Clubes FIFA 25: How teams qualify

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tourna ... ms-qualify
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CONMEBOL (updated after second round)

2 spots to qualify from ranking, 3 spots if Palmeiras, Flamengo or Fluminense win 2024 title. Brazilian teams are not eligible. Maximum 2 teams per country (including 2024 champions).

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 54 points (39 match points + 15 bonus points); 51 points for the teams already qualified for group stage (since I already add 3 points to them).

Note: Preliminary round results are not counted for match points (since not all teams play in this round), but a team which win a round 3 tie is given 3 bonus points for reaching group stage.

Here are the 33 teams (not counting Palmeiras, Flamengo or Fluminense) still competing in 2024, and the two teams that do not compete in 2024 but can still qualify.

Boca Juniors (ARG) - 71 (not competing in 2024)
River Plate (ARG) - 67
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Olimpia (PAR) - 57 (not competing in 2024)
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Independiente del Valle (ECU) - 41
Barcelona (ECU) - 40
Cerro Porteno (PAR) - 40
Nacional (URU) - 40
Libertad (PAR) - 30
The Strongest (BOL) - 30
Estudiantes (ARG) - 30
Bolivar (BOL) - 27
Talleres (ARG) - 27
Deportivo Tachira (VEN) - 25
Colo-Colo (CHI) - 19
Always Ready (BOL) - 18
Alianza Lima (PER) - 14
LDU Quito (ECU) - 14
Junior (COL) - 13
Penarol (URU) - 13
Caracas (VEN) - 12
Liverpool (URU) - 10
Universitario (PER) - 10
Cobresal (CHI) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Huachipato (CHI) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Millonarios (COL) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Rosario Central (ARG) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
San Lorenzo (ARG) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Nacional (PAR) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Palestino (CHI) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Sportivo Trinidense (PAR) - 0 (must win title to qualify)
Atletico Mineiro (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Botafogo (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Gremio (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
Red Bull Bragantino - (must win title to qualify)
Sao Paulo (BRA) - (must win title to qualify)
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CONCACAF (updated after round 1)

1 spot to qualify from ranking if Monterrey win 2024 title. Mexican teams are not eligible.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 30 points (21 match points + 9 bonus points).

Note: Round 1 results are not counted for match points (since not all teams play in this round), but a team which win a round 1 tie is given 3 bonus points for reaching round of 16 (as are teams given a bye to round of 16).

Here are the 15 teams (not counting Monterrey) still competing in 2024, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Philadelphia Union (USA) - 40
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Columbus Crew (USA) - 16 (must win title to qualify, since they have to play Monterrey in the semi-finals)
Alajuelense (CRC) - 12
New England Revolution - 12
Orlando City (USA) - 8 (must win title to qualify)
Cincinnati (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Herediano (CRC) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Houston Dynamo (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Inter Miami (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Nashville (USA) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
Robinhood (SUR) - 3 (must win title to qualify)
America (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Chivas Guadalajara (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Pachuca (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
Tigres UANL (MEX) - (must win title to qualify)
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So this is a seperate tournament to the CWC @amenina.

A new trophy and will be named "Mundial del Clubes" globally.
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:56 So this is a seperate tournament to the CWC @amenina.

A new trophy and will be named "Mundial del Clubes" globally.
Kind of like UEFA Champions League is different from the old European Cup, Premier League is different from the old First Division…

(Of course I understand this new competition is every four years, while the old one is every year.)
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amenina wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 17:46 CAF (updated after group stage matchday 5)

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Ahly or Wydad win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 30 points (21 match points + 9 bonus points); 27 points for the teams already qualified for quarter-finals (since I already add 3 points to them).

Here are the 9 teams (not counting Al Ahly or Wydad) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Mamelodi Sundowns (RSA) - 90
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ES Tunis (TUN) - 79
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Petro de Luanda (ANG) - 54 (must win title to qualify)
Simba (TAN) - 49 (must win title to qualify)
Al Hilal (SDN) - 35 (must win title to qualify)
TP Mazembe (COD) - 24 (must win title to qualify)
ASEC Mimosas (CIV) - 17 (must win title to qualify)
Young Africans (TAN) - 14 (must win title to qualify)
Jwaneng Galaxy (BOT) - 11 (must win title to qualify)
This Saturday ES Tunis will play Al Hilal in the last match of the group stage, and they need at least a draw to advance to the quarter-finals.

If they lose, they will be eliminated from the CAF Champions League, and thus Mamelodi Sundowns will qualify for the FIFA Club World Cup at least through the ranking pathway.
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amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:25
Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:56 So this is a seperate tournament to the CWC @amenina.

A new trophy and will be named "Mundial del Clubes" globally.
Kind of like UEFA Champions League is different from the old European Cup, Premier League is different from the old First Division…

(Of course I understand this new competition is every four years, while the old one is every year.)
UCL is a rebrand of old European Cup.

PL isn't a rebrand. It's a totally new competition. The Championship is a rebrand of D1 as it is the top division of the English Football League.

This is a brand new competition classed as inaugural edition.

I expect the CWC trophy will be handed to the new annual competition winners. The Wikipedia page needs changing too!
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:44
amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:25
Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:56 So this is a seperate tournament to the CWC @amenina.

A new trophy and will be named "Mundial del Clubes" globally.
Kind of like UEFA Champions League is different from the old European Cup, Premier League is different from the old First Division…

(Of course I understand this new competition is every four years, while the old one is every year.)
UCL is a rebrand of old European Cup.

PL isn't a rebrand. It's a totally new competition. The Championship is a rebrand of D1 as it is the top division of the English Football League.

This is a brand new competition classed as inaugural edition.

I expect the CWC trophy will be handed to the new annual competition winners. The Wikipedia page needs changing too!
Nobody in the right mind would consider the Championship as the continuation of the old First Division.

The new Coupe Intercontinentale de la FIFA is probably closer as a successor to the old Club World Cup (and the Intercontinental Cup) in terms of size, format and frequency.

But most likely we will be getting new trophies for both new competitions. FIFA has the money to make new ones.
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amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 13:17
Jackson Harrison wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:44
amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:25

Kind of like UEFA Champions League is different from the old European Cup, Premier League is different from the old First Division…

(Of course I understand this new competition is every four years, while the old one is every year.)
UCL is a rebrand of old European Cup.

PL isn't a rebrand. It's a totally new competition. The Championship is a rebrand of D1 as it is the top division of the English Football League.

This is a brand new competition classed as inaugural edition.

I expect the CWC trophy will be handed to the new annual competition winners. The Wikipedia page needs changing too!
Nobody in the right mind would consider the Championship as the continuation of the old First Division.

The new Coupe Intercontinentale de la FIFA is probably closer as a successor to the old Club World Cup (and the Intercontinental Cup) in terms of size, format and frequency.

But most likely we will be getting new trophies for both new competitions. FIFA has the money to make new ones.
Technically it is but it's not the elite league anymore.

So the CWC is abolished and the edition counts start at 0.
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amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 23:09 FIFA website: https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tourna ... s/usa-2025
It is a new competition
The first edition of FIFA's new prime club competition will be played in the United States.
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amenina wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:31
amenina wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 17:46 CAF (updated after group stage matchday 5)

1 spot to qualify from ranking, 2 spots if Al Ahly or Wydad win 2023/24 title. No country restriction applicable.

The maximum a team can still win in the rest of tournament is 30 points (21 match points + 9 bonus points); 27 points for the teams already qualified for quarter-finals (since I already add 3 points to them).

Here are the 9 teams (not counting Al Ahly or Wydad) still competing in 2023/24, and they are the only teams that can still qualify.

Mamelodi Sundowns (RSA) - 90
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ES Tunis (TUN) - 79
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Petro de Luanda (ANG) - 54 (must win title to qualify)
Simba (TAN) - 49 (must win title to qualify)
Al Hilal (SDN) - 35 (must win title to qualify)
TP Mazembe (COD) - 24 (must win title to qualify)
ASEC Mimosas (CIV) - 17 (must win title to qualify)
Young Africans (TAN) - 14 (must win title to qualify)
Jwaneng Galaxy (BOT) - 11 (must win title to qualify)
This Saturday ES Tunis will play Al Hilal in the last match of the group stage, and they need at least a draw to advance to the quarter-finals.

If they lose, they will be eliminated from the CAF Champions League, and thus Mamelodi Sundowns will qualify for the FIFA Club World Cup at least through the ranking pathway.
https://twitter.com/FIFAcom/status/1763534737912611099

The 20th spot at next year's Mundial de Clubes FIFA 25™ could be sealed this weekend, with the @CAF_Online Champions League group stage set to be concluded! 👀

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Can Al Nassr still qualify without winning this season's CL? What do they need to overtake Kawasaki?

Edit: I mistakenly thought they were 4th, not 5th so it seems they can't possibly make it. If Al Hilal wins it then both Jeonbuk and Ulsan qualify, if I understand this correctly?
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