FIFA Club World Cup

[amirbachar]

Just for the sake of it, I did some computations for South America too.

Palmeiras, Flamengo and Fluminense are already in as Libertadores winners. Other Brazilian clubs will need to win Libertadores 2024 in order to qualify - and so I left them out of the ranking.

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River Plate      ARG   63Q
Boca Juniors     ARG   58
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Olimpia          PAR   51
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Indep. del Valle ECU   46Q
Racing           ARG   43
Nacional         URU   43
Cerro Porteno    PAR   42Q
Velez            ARG   41
...                    ...

Q = 5 points for qualifying to Libertadores 2024 already taken into account
Of course, some Argentinians (and possibly others too) will soon be unable to qualify for it and could be deleted in advance.

Olimpia is almost surely our of Copa Libertadores 2024!
So River are pretty much guaranteed CWC place unless Argentinian team other than them and Boca wins next year, and Boca will be in the same situation if they qualify.
The last place is up for grabs.

[amirbachar]

BTW, very silly rule by Paraguay to let the cup finalist one of their 4 Libertadores places, but even without it that probably wouldn't have helped Olimpia anyway...

[ultra2013]

BTW, very silly rule by Paraguay to let the cup finalist one of their 4 Libertadores places, but even without it that probably wouldn't have helped Olimpia anyway...

It's very common in South America. Brazilian Cup, Argentinian Cup (and Argentinian League Cup), Chile Cup, Colombia Cup, Ecuador Cup, etc, give tickets for Libertadores.

[rpo.castro]

BTW, very silly rule by Paraguay to let the cup finalist one of their 4 Libertadores places, but even without it that probably wouldn't have helped Olimpia anyway...

It's very common in South America. Brazilian Cup, Argentinian Cup (and Argentinian League Cup), Chile Cup, Colombia Cup, Ecuador Cup, etc, give tickets for Libertadores.

National cups in south america are much more important than here in europe.
In Brazil its gives a big money prize, and its a goal of every player.

[amirbachar]

BTW, very silly rule by Paraguay to let the cup finalist one of their 4 Libertadores places, but even without it that probably wouldn't have helped Olimpia anyway...

It's very common in South America. Brazilian Cup, Argentinian Cup (and Argentinian League Cup), Chile Cup, Colombia Cup, Ecuador Cup, etc, give tickets for Libertadores.

For the winners yes, but not for the finalists

[amirbachar]

It's now official that Boca won't play Copa Libertadores next year, and are in doubt for FIFA Club World Cup 2025

[max tre]

It's now official that Boca won't play Copa Libertadores next year, and are in doubt for FIFA Club World Cup 2025

Club Olimpia is also out of Libertadores 2024, and are even more in danger: they need a win by an Argentinian team or a second-win by Flamengo/Palmeiras/Fluminens + not being overtaken by any other non-ARG/BRA team in the ranking. All of this is assuming these are the actual ranking rules, of course...

[max tre]

Update:

• Manchester City and Chelsea
• Real Madrid and one of Barcelona / Atletico Madrid
• Bayern Munich and one of Borussia Dortmund / Leipzig
• PSG
• Inter and one of Jxxentus / Milan / Napoli
• Porto
• two of Benfica / Ajax / Salzburg / Shakhtar Donetsk (or whoever wins the CL this season)

Spanish battle:

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            UEFA  FIFA
Barcelona    55Q   62
Atletico M.  60Q   57

German one:

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            UEFA  FIFA
B. Dortmund  66Q   68
Leipzig      59Q   61

Italian one:

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            UEFA  FIFA
Jxxentus     47    52
Milan        39	   42
Napoli       34    39

Last spot(s):

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            UEFA  FIFA
Ajax         39    47
Salzburg     40	   45
S. Donetsk   35    45

Q = UEFA bonus points for reaching the KO phase already taken into account

[max tre]

Update after the end of GS:


Which is:

• Manchester City and Chelsea
• Real Madrid and one of Barcelona / Atletico Madrid (or Real Sociedad)
• Bayern Munich and one of Borussia Dortmund / Leipzig
• PSG
• Inter and one of Jxxentus / Napoli (or Lazio)
• Porto and Benfica
• one of Ajax / Salzburg / Copenhagen / Arsenal

Spanish battle:

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            UEFA  FIFA
Barcelona    55    62
Atletico M.  62    60

Atletico is pretty ahead under UEFA ranking, but tonight they managed to nibble away something even as per FIFA points. (if Real Sociedad doesn't win the CL)


German battle:

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            UEFA  FIFA
B. Dortmund  67    69
Leipzig      61    64

Dortmund is basically a whole KO-round ahead.


Italian battle:

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            UEFA  FIFA
Jxxentus     47    52
Napoli       41    42

Not a real battle here, Napoli needs at least to get into semifinals... (if Lazio doesn't win the CL)


Last spot: Ajax if FIFA points count, Salzburg if EUFA ranking does. (if Arsenal / Copenhagen don't win the CL)

[Wachtwoord]

Does anyone know what is the next meeting when this could potentially be decided?

[Fotcalc]

@FootRankings on X wrote tomorrow: https://x.com/FootRankings/status/17360 ... 65983?s=20

[Wachtwoord]

Thanks!

Fingers crossed for those with a shot. Especially for Salzburg and Ajax this is a lot of money that'll make a big difference.

[Tazmania]

Sky UK has some early news ahead of tomorrow's FIFA Council meeting in Jeddah about the expanded 2025 Club WC.

It will run from Sunday 15 June - presumably European clubs won't be expected to play on that day because the WCQ MD4 will only finish on Tuesday 10 June - to the final on Sunday 13 July.

https://news.sky.com/story/fifa-club-wo ... s-13031836

[TommyChat]

Sky UK has some early news ahead of tomorrow's FIFA Council meeting in Jeddah about the expanded 2025 Club WC.

It will run from Sunday 15 June - presumably European clubs won't be expected to play on that day because the WCQ MD4 will only finish on Tuesday 10 June - to the final on Sunday 13 July.

https://news.sky.com/story/fifa-club-wo ... s-13031836

In June 15th there will probably be only the opening match, then 3 games on Monday and 4 games per day after it like the Qatar World Cup which also was 29 days.

[max tre]

According to Gazzetta dello Sport, it will be UEFA ranking: https://www.gazzetta.it/calcio/coppa-mo ... juve.shtml