2025 U17 World Cup, Qatar (first annual 48-team edition)

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2025 U17 World Cup, Qatar (first annual 48-team edition)

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Following the decision of the FIFA Council to expand the FIFA U-17 World CupTM to 48 teams and to hold this tournament annually rather than biennially, FIFA is calling for expressions of interest from member associations to bid for the first five consecutive editions of this tournament as a single consolidated package, starting with the 2025 edition and ending with the 2029 edition.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/3c13eb050 ... ent_EN.pdf

Slot allocation to be announced.
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DRAWS CONFIRMED FOR OFC U-16 MEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP AND QUALIFYING

https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draws-c ... ualifying/

The draws for the OFC U-16 Men’s Championship and OFC U-16 Men’s Championship – Qualifying have been held at the OFC Home of Football ‘Te Kahu o Kiwa’ in Auckland.

Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, American Samoa and Tonga will compete at the Qualifying tournament in Tonga from April 13-19 for a place in the Championship to be held in Tahiti from 28 July-10 August. The four teams will play each other in a round robin format over three match days.

The winner will join New Zealand, Fiji, New Caledonia, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Vanuatu, and Samoa in Papeete.

New Zealand, Vanuatu, Fiji, and Cook Islands have been drawn in Group A, with New Caledonia, Samoa, Tahiti, and the Qualifying Winner in Group B.

Group A will kick-off with New Zealand v Vanuatu and Fiji v Cook Islands, whilst Group B begins with New Caledonia v Samoa and Tahiti v Qualifying Winner.

The full match schedule will be released in due course.

The winner and runner-up will represent Oceania at the FIFA U-17 World Cup™ in 2025.

(Note: The number of slots for OFC is to be announced, so they may have more than two teams qualified.)

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5 March, 6:00pm (NZT) DRAW | OFC U-16 Men's Championship 2024 - Qualifying: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9pW6NnwTSY

Teams (all in one pot): American Samoa, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga

5 March, 6:15pm (NZT) DRAW | OFC U-16 Men's Championship 2024: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=42iyvg-yfgY

Seeding (based on ranking of previous edition):
Pot A (ranked 1-2): New Zealand, New Caledonia
Pot B (ranked 3-6): Tahiti, Fiji, Samoa, Vanuatu
Pot C (ranked 7-8): Cook Islands, Qualifying Winner
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amenina wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:19 DRAWS CONFIRMED FOR OFC U-16 MEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP AND QUALIFYING

https://www.oceaniafootball.com/draws-c ... ualifying/

The draws for the OFC U-16 Men’s Championship and OFC U-16 Men’s Championship – Qualifying have been held at the OFC Home of Football ‘Te Kahu o Kiwa’ in Auckland.

Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, American Samoa and Tonga will compete at the Qualifying tournament in Tonga from April 13-19 for a place in the Championship to be held in Tahiti from 28 July-10 August. The four teams will play each other in a round robin format over three match days.

The winner will join New Zealand, Fiji, New Caledonia, Tahiti, Cook Islands, Vanuatu, and Samoa in Papeete.

New Zealand, Vanuatu, Fiji, and Cook Islands have been drawn in Group A, with New Caledonia, Samoa, Tahiti, and the Qualifying Winner in Group B.

Group A will kick-off with New Zealand v Vanuatu and Fiji v Cook Islands, whilst Group B begins with New Caledonia v Samoa and Tahiti v Qualifying Winner.

The full match schedule will be released in due course.

The winner and runner-up will represent Oceania at the FIFA U-17 World Cup™ in 2025.

(Note: The number of slots for OFC is to be announced, so they may have more than two teams qualified.)

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5 March, 6:00pm (NZT) DRAW | OFC U-16 Men's Championship 2024 - Qualifying: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9pW6NnwTSY

Teams (all in one pot): American Samoa, Papua New Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tonga

5 March, 6:15pm (NZT) DRAW | OFC U-16 Men's Championship 2024: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=42iyvg-yfgY

Seeding (based on ranking of previous edition):
Pot A (ranked 1-2): New Zealand, New Caledonia
Pot B (ranked 3-6): Tahiti, Fiji, Samoa, Vanuatu
Pot C (ranked 7-8): Cook Islands, Qualifying Winner
OFC won’t get more than 2 slots surely?
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Jackson Harrison wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 18:45 OFC won’t get more than 2 slots surely?
No idea at this point. Don't even know if the slot allocation has been discussed yet.
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I was thinking about that the other day. There is usually a FIFA Council meeting this month so I expect it will be decided then, what with the OFC Qualifiers being completed by the end of the summer.

I expect at least 4 slots to be allocated to the OFC.
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Tazmania wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 20:23 I was thinking about that the other day. There is usually a FIFA Council meeting this month so I expect it will be decided then, what with the OFC Qualifiers being completed by the end of the summer.

I expect at least 4 slots to be allocated to the OFC.
At least?

4 is a joke! Why would they give any more?
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The competition is developmental in nature and the doubling of the number of participants gives sufficient scope to include at least OFC 4 teams; probably that will be the maximum though.
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4 - OFC
8 - UEFA
6 - Conmebol
10 - Concacaf
10 - CAF
10 - AFC

That's my guess. The host will take one of its confederation's places.
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Tazmania wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 20:51 4 - OFC
8 - UEFA
6 - Conmebol
10 - Concacaf
10 - CAF
10 - AFC

That's my guess. The host will take one of its confederation's places.
2 questions:

1. How can UEFA have less?

2. Are you trolling?
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The new format of the EURO U17 has 8 finalists (down from 16) so it makes sense that in addition to being able to compete for the European title all of the finalists qualify for that year's U17WC.
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Tazmania wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:17 The new format of the EURO U17 has 8 finalists (down from 16) so it makes sense that in addition to being able to compete for the European title all of the finalists qualify for that year's U17WC.
By that logic I could even see it being 7 to stop the host auto qualifying. It would be stupid for UEFA to allow such a thing to happen, but if they allowed Oceania to take two spots from us, they'd probably allow that too.
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Lorric wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:36
Tazmania wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:17 The new format of the EURO U17 has 8 finalists (down from 16) so it makes sense that in addition to being able to compete for the European title all of the finalists qualify for that year's U17WC.
By that logic I could even see it being 7 to stop the host auto qualifying. It would be stupid for UEFA to allow such a thing to happen, but if they allowed Oceania to take two spots from us, they'd probably allow that too.
UEFA is the confederation with the most members (55), one more than CAF. Even if we go by "equal" representation at the U17 World Cup, UEFA is unlikely to have fewer spots than CAF or any other confederations. I think UEFA should have somewhere between 10-14 spots.

Starting next season (2024/25), the U17 qualifying will use a new system, and the Euro U17 final tournament hosts will also play in the final qualifying round, so they can use the final round of qualifying to decide which teams qualify for the U17 World Cup. For example, let's say UEFA is given 14 spots, then the top two of the seven final qualifying round groups will qualify for the U17 World Cup. This way, there is no automatic World Cup spot for the Euro U17 final tournament hosts.
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amenina wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 14:30
Lorric wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:36
Tazmania wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:17 The new format of the EURO U17 has 8 finalists (down from 16) so it makes sense that in addition to being able to compete for the European title all of the finalists qualify for that year's U17WC.
By that logic I could even see it being 7 to stop the host auto qualifying. It would be stupid for UEFA to allow such a thing to happen, but if they allowed Oceania to take two spots from us, they'd probably allow that too.
UEFA is the confederation with the most members (55), one more than CAF. Even if we go by "equal" representation at the U17 World Cup, UEFA is unlikely to have fewer spots than CAF or any other confederations. I think UEFA should have somewhere between 10-14 spots.

Starting next season (2024/25), the U17 qualifying will use a new system, and the Euro U17 final tournament hosts will also play in the final qualifying round, so they can use the final round of qualifying to decide which teams qualify for the U17 World Cup. For example, let's say UEFA is given 14 spots, then the top two of the seven final qualifying round groups will qualify for the U17 World Cup. This way, there is no automatic World Cup spot for the Euro U17 final tournament hosts.
How can anyone justify OFC having 4 slots?

NZ might make the KO stage. All the rest will come last with like -20 Gd and nil points.
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amenina wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 14:30
Lorric wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:36
Tazmania wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 13:17 The new format of the EURO U17 has 8 finalists (down from 16) so it makes sense that in addition to being able to compete for the European title all of the finalists qualify for that year's U17WC.
By that logic I could even see it being 7 to stop the host auto qualifying. It would be stupid for UEFA to allow such a thing to happen, but if they allowed Oceania to take two spots from us, they'd probably allow that too.
UEFA is the confederation with the most members (55), one more than CAF. Even if we go by "equal" representation at the U17 World Cup, UEFA is unlikely to have fewer spots than CAF or any other confederations. I think UEFA should have somewhere between 10-14 spots.

Starting next season (2024/25), the U17 qualifying will use a new system, and the Euro U17 final tournament hosts will also play in the final qualifying round, so they can use the final round of qualifying to decide which teams qualify for the U17 World Cup. For example, let's say UEFA is given 14 spots, then the top two of the seven final qualifying round groups will qualify for the U17 World Cup. This way, there is no automatic World Cup spot for the Euro U17 final tournament hosts.
Hopefully that is how it will be.
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Yes, that would work if that's how the new U17 EURO format is.

OFC needs at least 4 places because it has the need of the most development among the confederations.
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